If the NFL draft was today, we would draft #14-who?

Remii · Oct 31, 2014

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If the NFL draft were today, we would draft number 14. ESPN has an insider draft "Big Board" that has Jameis Winston at #14 and Landon Collins (S) at #13. Both would be steals at this position in the draft and we could use either one on our team. Any thoughts?

1. *Marcus Mariota, QB, Oregon Ducks

Completing more than 70 percent of his throws, hasn't thrown an interception -- and that's with a mess along the offensive line. But this will help Mariota; he'll be more ready for NFL life. He combines above-average accuracy and anticipation with an ability to get through his progressions and elite athleticism. How well he can take apart a defense with tools other than his legs matters in terms of how he is viewed as a prospect, but his ability to throw on the run or to simply take off and pick up chunk yardage as a runner is a major plus.

2. *Leonard Williams, DL, USC Trojans

Provides impact wherever he lines up. Quick for his size, he can move all over and won't get pushed around when he's inside. At his size (6-foot-5, 290 pounds), he's a special athlete who could line up as a defensive end and drive a tackle back, or line up on the outside shoulder of a guard and create problems with power and quickness. He's the kind of disruptive, versatile lineman who can succeed in any system. A potential No. 1.

3. *Amari Cooper, WR, Alabama Crimson Tide

Should hit 1,000 yards receiving this week. Crazy good season. He's neither a pure burner nor an impossible matchup threat given his size (6-1, 210 pounds), but there's nothing he doesn't do well. He separates with ease and also has a good sense of how to find space against a zone. Where he really stands out is his ability to make contested catches. His work rate is legendary down there and will be a big selling point.

4. *Randy Gregory, DE, Nebraska Cornhuskers

Missed a lot of time early, but is now healthy, if not 100 percent. A super-athletic pass-rusher with a lean frame and exceptional quickness, he could be a 3-4 outside linebacker or add some weight and be useful in a 4-3 scheme. How well he can hold up at the point of attack, particularly against the run, will be an area scouts focus on, but in a passing league, the greater focus will be on continued development as a pass-rusher.

5. *Shane Ray, DE, Missouri Tigers

Has tackles for loss in every single game. He plays with tremendous energy, beats blockers in multiple ways and gets to the passer, so it's going to work out. What I like about Ray is he combines a relentless effort level with a range of pass-rushing moves. He's not just a speed-rusher off the edge; he'll get on the inside shoulder of a tackle and drive through, creating pressure from the inside. Super productive.

6. Cedric Ogbuehi, OT, Texas A&M Aggies

Well, he can't play defense. A very good athlete, Ogbuehi has transitioned from right tackle to left tackle, just as Jake Matthews did out of Texas A&M. Right now he gets a higher grade as a pass-blocker, but he's no slouch when it comes to creating a push as a run-blocker.

7. Brandon Scherff, OT, Iowa Hawkeyes

No changes with Scherff. He can be better in pass protection, but he's pretty good, and is the best run-blocker in the class. He uses a powerful base and quick feet to simply overpower defenders, and he can move well and line up blocks in space. He's nimble and simply needs to work on technique and use all his tools in the passing game.

8. *Shawn Oakman, DE, Baylor Bears

He's still a work in progress, but he continues to disrupt so I'm betting high. Has basketball-center length at 6-9, but also packs on more than 280 pounds, which he carries well, and it has allowed him to drive blockers. When he gets his long arms extended into blockers (or in passing lanes), he can shed quickly. How Oakman is used will be a question, but the former Penn Stater is a tantalizing specimen and is beginning to come into his own.

9. *Todd Gurley, RB, Georgia Bulldogs

Unstoppable when he has played, averaging more than 8 yards per carry, and I'm not knocking him here for not playing. I rank Gurley higher than he'll probably be drafted, given the way the NFL values running backs, but he could at least go in Round 1. He's a powerful runner with the ability to run away from a defense. When Gurley gets past the line of scrimmage, watch out. He can run high, which raises durability concerns that will certainly play into his draft stock.

10. **Leonard Floyd, OLB, Georgia Bulldogs

Has had a sack a week for the past month. A green but talented young player with great range against the run and the ability to blow away blockers with his first step and overall athleticism, but he's also undersized (6-4, 230 pounds), and evaluators will key on his ability to hold up and play with leverage. He profiles as a 3-4 outside linebacker with the ability to both rush the passer and drop into space and cover. Not a finished product.

11. *Andrus Peat, OT, Stanford Cardinal

Stanford has been disappointing, but I think Peat has played well for the most part. He's both powerful and nimble, with the ability to drive a defender back in the run game and the exceptional length and above-average footwork you look for from a pass-blocker.

12. *Melvin Gordon, RB, Wisconsin Badgers

He's getting the ball a lot lately, which is a concern, but he has been exceptional. Gordon is an easy accelerator, and he cuts with explosiveness and little wasted motion. He'll miss a hole here and there in search of a bigger lane, but he has good vision, isn't afraid of contact, and has breakaway speed when he gets in space. Here's hoping health doesn't become an issue because of the workload.

13. *Landon Collins, S, Alabama Crimson Tide

Super versatile, he's what every NFL coach wants right now. He has been crucial this season because Bama's actually pretty weak elsewhere in the secondary. Collins can play deep -- making good reads and taking the right angle to the ball -- and also has the ability to line up close to the line of scrimmage and run with tight ends. A strong tackler, Collins is fearless in taking on running backs but shows good technique and doesn't just throw himself at the ball.

14. **Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State Seminoles

I initially dropped Winston a little too far based on a lot of initial feedback regarding his suspension earlier in the season, and him being here reflects that. But the off-field issues will matter a great deal during the draft process, no question. He needs time to prove doubters wrong. He has special instincts for a QB, and good training is obvious. Winston's natural gifts are clear -- size, arm strength, athleticism -- but so is the ability to manipulate the pocket, see pressure early and deliver the ball to the right target. Consistency with ball placement and timing is an area that will need to improve.
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So this is a big board top prospect list and not a mock draft...?

Why not start a mock draft thread. And keep it going until the draft. Whatever draft sites people look at they could just post the update when it happens. Would be interesting to see how the Texans projected draft position and pick change throughout the rest of the season and what actually happens on draft day.

Btw, on the a couple of mock drafts I've seen _ Winston doesn't fall to #14 and he probably won't so you guys are debating this for nothing.

The Real Shady · Oct 31, 2014

Two sites have Mariota, Cook, and Winston going in the top 10.

1 Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Marcus Mariota, QB, Oregon
2 Jacksonville Jaguars: Leonard Williams, DE/DT, USC
3 Oakland Raiders: Randy Gregory, DE/OLB, Nebraska
4 Tennessee Titans: Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State
5 St. Louis Rams: Connor Cook, QB, Michigan State
6 New York Jets: Amari Cooper, WR, Alabama
7 Minnesota Vikings: Andrus Peat, OT, Stanford
8 Atlanta Falcons: Shane Ray, DE/OLB, Missouri
9 Chicago Bears: Landon Collins, S, Alabama
10 Washington Redskins: Brandon Scherff, OT/G, Iowa
11 Cleveland Browns: Kevin White, WR, West Virginia
12 Cleveland Browns: La'El Collins, OT/G, LSU
13 Houston Texans: Cedric Ogbuhei, OT, Texas A&M
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http://walterfootball.com/draft2015.php

1 TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS: MARCUS MARIOTA, QB, OREGON
2 JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS: RANDY GREGORY, DE, NEBRASKA
3 OAKLAND RAIDERS: LEONARD WILLIAMS, DT, USC
4 NEW YORK JETS: AMARI COOPER, WR, ALABAMA
5 WASHINGTON: CEDRIC OGBUEHI, OT, TEXAS A&M
6 ST. LOUIS RAMS: JAMEIS WINSTON, QB, FLORIDA ST.
7 MINNESOTA VIKINGS: TODD GURLEY, RB, GEORGIA
8 TENNESSEE TITANS: CONNOR COOK, QB, MICHIGAN ST.
9 ATLANTA FALCONS: BRANDON SCHERFF, OT, IOWA
10 MIAMI DOLPHINS: LANDON COLLINS, S, ALABAMA
11 KANSAS CITY CHIEFS: SAMMIE COATES, WR, AUBURN
12 NEW ORLEANS SAINTS: VIC BEASLEY, OLB, CLEMSON
13 HOUSTON TEXANS: BRETT HUNDLEY, QB, UCLA
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http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-B.php

Remii · Oct 31, 2014

The Real Shady said: ↑

Two sites have Mariota, Cook, and Winston going in the top 10.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2015.php

http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-B.php
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If Tampa gets the #1 pick _ no way Winston makes it out of Florida IMO...

DonkeyMagic · Oct 31, 2014

draft talk already ?

Hey Now! · Oct 31, 2014

Bobbythegreat said: ↑

Literally 0 chance that Jameis Winston is the pick, BOB isn't going to allow his GM to draft someone with outstanding sexual assault allegations. I get that it's still "way too early" draft talk, but it would probably be better if we talked about those who actually had a chance of being drafted by us.
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Ultimately, yeah - they'll probably pass, regardless... but I think there's a significant difference between drafting Winston 14th as opposed to 1st.

Assuming he grades out as a top-of-the-draft-stud - at #14, his value, at least to some degree (I would say to a large degree - but I'm trying to look at this through the lens of the Texans), has to start chipping away at the character concerns (assuming he keeps his nose clean between now and then).

J Hard · Oct 31, 2014

Fulgore said: ↑

Love the idea and pick. Just dont think Bob, OB, and Rick would gamble on Winston.
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And thats why this franchise have failed since it's inception.

Fearless franchises have the true success in sports. "The Texan way", whatever that is, simply hasn't cut it.

Time for this this organization to grow a pair.

Biggest mistake thus far is them passing on Peyton Manning because "we have Matt Schaub" lol what a joke.

It doesn't make me less of a fan because I'm sick of ineptitude.

Fulgore · Oct 31, 2014

J Hard said: ↑

And thats why this franchise have failed since it's inception.

Fearless franchises have the true success in sports. "The Texan way", whatever that is, simply hasn't cut it.

Time for this this organization to grow a pair.

Biggest mistake thus far is them passing on Peyton Manning because "we have Matt Schaub" lol what a joke.

It doesn't make me less of a fan because I'm sick of ineptitude.
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No argument here. I agree with you. Maybe Bob shocks the world and takes a chance on a qb with a huge upside. Kid seems to be a great leader and has the clutch gene.

IronTexan93 · Oct 31, 2014

J Hard said: ↑

And thats why this franchise have failed since it's inception.

Fearless franchises have the true success in sports. "The Texan way", whatever that is, simply hasn't cut it.

Time for this this organization to grow a pair.

Biggest mistake thus far is them passing on Peyton Manning because "we have Matt Schaub" lol what a joke.

It doesn't make me less of a fan because I'm sick of ineptitude.
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^^^^^^^^Couldn't put it any better.

Remii · Oct 31, 2014

I just heard a report that Cook said he is going to return for his senior season.... Good business move for him if he does...

Summer Song Giver · Oct 31, 2014

J Hard said: ↑

And thats why this franchise have failed since it's inception.

Fearless franchises have the true success in sports. "The Texan way", whatever that is, simply hasn't cut it.

Time for this this organization to grow a pair.

Biggest mistake thus far is them passing on Peyton Manning because "we have Matt Schaub" lol what a joke.

It doesn't make me less of a fan because I'm sick of ineptitude.
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