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[Climate Change] Summer Watch 2016

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Cohete Rojo, Jun 1, 2016.

  1. ipaman

    ipaman Contributing Member

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  2. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    Right. The reason it's funny is because he obviously was just looking for some expert quotable material to support his viewpoints and he does it in a way that is awesome. But the actual study is pretty interesting.

    http://web.archive.org/web/20130414122609/http://www.pnas.org/content/101/46/16115.full
     
  3. Cohete Rojo

    Cohete Rojo Contributing Member

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    Don't these people know that everything is global warming's "fault".
    [rQUOTEr]
    El Nino driving child marriage and labor across southern Africa: agencies

    Tens of thousands of children across southern Africa are being pushed out of school and into early marriage or child labor because of drought and hunger caused by the El Nino weather pattern, charities said on Wednesday.

    Southern Africa has been hard hit over the past year by an El Nino-inspired drought that has wilted crops, slowed economic growth and driven food prices higher.

    Increased numbers of children are trading sex and doing domestic work to survive across nine countries, a report by World Vision, the United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF) and Plan International said.

    "El Nino's impacts are worsening the lives of children in a number of areas with many facing sexual exploitation, violence, child labor and psychosocial distress," World Vision UK's child rights expert Tracy Shields said in a statement.

    Children have become separated from their families as they leave home to find work or food, the report said.

    More than 60 million people, two thirds of them in east and southern Africa, are facing food shortages because of droughts linked to El Nino, a warming of sea-surface temperatures in the Pacific Ocean, according to the United Nations.

    The arrival of La Nina, a weather pattern which usually bringing floods to southern Africa, could worsen the situation, the U.N. has said.

    Meteorologists predict a 50 to 75 percent chance of La Nina developing in the second half of this year.

    Lesotho, Malawi, Namibia, Swaziland and Zimbabwe have declared national drought emergencies.

    South Africa has declared a drought emergency in eight of the country's nine provinces, while Mozambique has declared an alert for some southern and central areas.

    Southern Africa has a three-month window of opportunity before the 2016/2017 planting season, to take urgent measures to prevent millions of rural families becoming dependent on humanitarian assistance in 2018, the U.N. has said.[/rQUOTEr]
     
  4. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Hate to break this to you but el nino is not the same thing as global warming.

    However, the first 6 months of 2016 is now officially the hottest in recorded Earth's history.

    It's ok, keep your head buried in the sand. It's cooler there.
     
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    I was going to post it in conjunction the graph below. :grin:

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    #46 Cohete Rojo, Jul 20, 2016
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    You mean since 1902 or 1880 depending on what data your talking about. As a statistical representation of earth's history I'd say that time period is far below relevant but go on chicken little.
     
  8. SamFisher

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    This is a pretty familiar pattern.

    Crackpot Rojo starts a crackpot thread mocking Global warming at the beginning of some time period or some event.

    People laugh at him, he goes back to his chemtrails.

    Months later, that time period/event is shown to be among the very hottest on record by any objective measurement, or an increased amount of extreme weather events occurred - all of which is predicted by Global warming, but none of which can be said to be "solely caused" by it, because that's not the way it works.

    Then the process repeats. See, e.g.

    Winter Watch 2015-16
    Result - 2015-16 winter found to be warmest on record

    This is why Trump is doing well with the non-college white voter.
     
  9. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Learn some science man.

    Temperature changes on this magnitude have happened before but they were all associated with mass extinction events. They didn't happen in a 100 years but rather over very long periods of time (10's of thousands). Right now we're seeing extinctions occur at a rate not since the fall of the dinosaurs.

    And all you can do is fling insults. You obviously don't have any children in your life.
     
  10. okierock

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    "learn some science man"

    The next time you make a comment that has anything to do with science will be the first.

    and what does climate change have to do with that Mr. Nye
     
  11. Cohete Rojo

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    Two can play this game.

    [rQUOTEr]
    Arctic expert predicts final collapse of sea ice within four years

    One of the world's leading ice experts has predicted the final collapse of Arctic sea ice in summer months within four years.

    In what he calls a "global disaster" now unfolding in northern latitudes as the sea area that freezes and melts each year shrinks to its lowest extent ever recorded, Prof Peter Wadhams of Cambridge University calls for "urgent" consideration of new ideas to reduce global temperatures.

    ...[/rQUOTEr]

    Well, it's been 4 years and it looks like professor jackass's prediction is bunk. Time to pack up the global warming rhetoric. The UK government should investigates him for fraud, seize his pension, and suspend him from any government grants.

    Happy, Sam?
     
  12. Cohete Rojo

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    Wrap it up people. Not only is the Arctic sea ice not going to vanish this summer, it turns out Antarctica has been cooling - due to natural factors.

    [rQUOTEr]Absence of 21st century warming on Antarctic Peninsula consistent with natural variability


    Since the 1950s, research stations on the Antarctic Peninsula have recorded some of the largest increases in near-surface air temperature in the Southern Hemisphere1. This warming has contributed to the regional retreat of glaciers2, disintegration of floating ice shelves3 and a ‘greening’ through the expansion in range of various flora4. Several interlinked processes have been suggested as contributing to the warming, including stratospheric ozone depletion5, local sea-ice loss6, an increase in westerly winds5, 7, and changes in the strength and location of low–high-latitude atmospheric teleconnections8, 9. Here we use a stacked temperature record to show an absence of regional warming since the late 1990s. The annual mean temperature has decreased at a statistically significant rate, with the most rapid cooling during the Austral summer. Temperatures have decreased as a consequence of a greater frequency of cold, east-to-southeasterly winds, resulting from more cyclonic conditions in the northern Weddell Sea associated with a strengthening mid-latitude jet. These circulation changes have also increased the advection of sea ice towards the east coast of the peninsula, amplifying their effects. Our findings cover only 1% of the Antarctic continent and emphasize that decadal temperature changes in this region are not primarily associated with the drivers of global temperature change but, rather, reflect the extreme natural internal variability of the regional atmospheric circulation.[/rQUOTEr]
     
  13. SamFisher

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    Only the pure, uncut dip****tery of denialism in the form of Crackpot Rojo can take Arctic Sea Ice being at a record low as a victory, because at least there's still SOME LEFT.

    TAKE THAT HATERS.
     
  14. SamFisher

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    The problem with conspiracy Crackpots like Rojo and denialists is that they bothdon't understand why other people don't get their SECRET KNOWLEDGE, and feel the need to broadcast their SECRET KNOWLEDGE, but in possessing this SECRET KNOWLEDGE they're also establishing their own identity. But for this, they need the SECRET KNOWLEDGE to remain outside the main stream.

    In keeping with t he MO though, every single thing no matter how innocuous, or refutational, becomes evidence that supports the SECRET KNOWLEDGE because...it's who they are.

    For somebodoy like Crackpot Rojo to admit that the SECRET KNOWLEDGE has no real world grounding is to admit that they need help, and on the internet, you can never ask for help.
     
  15. Nook

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    Pretty sure this is Obama's fault.
     
  16. KaiSeR SoZe

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    there are still global warming deniers in this world?! wtffffffff
     
  17. Joshfast

    Joshfast "We're all gonna die" - Billy Sole
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    The problem isn't getting him to believe the science - the problem is to get him to believe this isn't a "liberal" issue. That's all it is and it's sad.
     
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    Of all the things that can become politically aligned. I have ALWAYS found this to be the weirdest one.
     
  19. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    What do you think -- that overnight the deniers lost the supreme super-intelligence that helps them understand global climate dynamics better than thousands of well-trained scientists? No. And do you think there is now LESS data to parse and cherry-pick? Oh, you would be wrong. The kind of intellect possessed by the deniers does not dissolve overnight into a keyboard or pillow. It has staying power, and scientists should watch out.
     
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