In before the lock bro!! (hurr)

[LelWestbrick]

Learn how a damn forum works.

The entire point of having a forum with threads--->posts is so you don't have to search through one 500 page thread to find what you want. It's meant to packet conversations into small, focused topics on a particular subject. Look at the Magic messageboard. They have one Dwight Howard topic. One. It's several hundred pages long. If you want to get the latest news on Dwight Howard you've got to dig through 25 pages of garbage to find a few useful nuggets of information. It's godawful. 20 topics covering 20 of the latest rumors or aspects about the DH trade beats the hell out of 2 topics that started on completely different subjects but ended up as hubs for all things Dwight.

I don't give a **** about RandomGuy25's completely unoriginal take on DH and I don't want to dig through fifteen other posts with the same unoriginal takes just to find out that the Lakers/Cavs/Magic are in talks again or whatever the latest news again. I want to see that. Quickly. Then I want to have a conversation on that. Specifically.

[BigBird]

IBTL.

[vernonmaxwell86]

chill bro

[PigMiller]

"Anthony Carter anyone?"

[LelWestbrick]

Originally Posted by vernonmaxwell86 chill bro

i aint even mad mayne

[kidcave9]

I hear ya

[Rockets2K]

Well, that's nice.

When you have your own forum, you can do it any way you want.

On this board, Clutch decided he prefers not having fresh threads for every update, and what he says goes.

So get over it or go find your Rockets info somewhere else cause I doubt Clutch changes it based on your opinion.

[RedNation]

Originally Posted by LelWestbrick Learn how a damn forum works.

I didn't read past here, but..... I'm sure Clutch and his crew have this part covered.

[RedRedemption]

Originally Posted by LelWestbrick Learn how a damn forum works. The entire point of having a forum with threads--->posts is so you don't have to search through one 500 page thread to find what you want. It's meant to packet conversations into small, focused topics on a particular subject. Look at the Magic messageboard. They have one Dwight Howard topic. One. It's several hundred pages long. If you want to get the latest news on Dwight Howard you've got to dig through 25 pages of garbage to find a few useful nuggets of information. It's godawful. 20 topics covering 20 of the latest rumors or aspects about the DH trade beats the hell out of 2 topics that started on completely different subjects but ended up as hubs for all things Dwight. I don't give a **** about RandomGuy25's completely unoriginal take on DH and I don't want to dig through fifteen other posts with the same unoriginal takes just to find out that the Lakers/Cavs/Magic are in talks again or whatever the latest news again. I want to see that. Quickly. Then I want to have a conversation on that. Specifically.

Learn how a forum with hundreds of active members works. If everyone created a thread for their opinions then nothing would ever get discussed; all the good threads will be buried and idiots that can't spell or create coherent sentences will reign supreme.

Suck it up or leave. Your choice.

[Francis3422]

Bring back Anthony Miller and let him run this game.

[napalm_black]

Mini rant:

I've never understood the obsession with posting either "ibtl" or "first". Seems asinine.

Can anyone help me out?

[napalm_black]

Also I'd like to say thanks to the mods who update thread titles with pertinent news (ie, update: Lin officially signs). That helps a lot. I agree with the OP that I have to fish through lots of horrible crap posts to find news updates sometimes. I would suggest editing the OP on occasion. But that's life on the internet!

[Jontro]

hmm the OP has some really good points. Now I'm gonna go dance.

[apollo33]

This isn't /sp/

[kevC]

I was going to start a topic, but decided I'd just tack on here.

I don't agree with everything, or anything really, that the OP said, but I do think it'd be nice if there was one thread about Dwight Howard that's updates ONLY. I've been off of Clutchfans for a couple of days would like to know all the little updates/tweets without having to sift through the commentary.

[david_rocket]

Originally Posted by LelWestbrick Learn how a damn forum works.

If someone knows how a forum works is Clutch, this site have been online for at least 15 years, and its been great.

Create your own forum if you want your own rules.

[Shroopy2]

In brofore the lock

[DudeWah]

Originally Posted by RedRedemption Learn how a forum with hundreds of active members works. If everyone created a thread for their opinions then nothing would ever get discussed; all the good threads will be buried and idiots that can't spell or create coherent sentences will reign supreme. Suck it up or leave. Your choice.

While Clutchfans is a decently big forum, a lot of other forums that I (and probably most others on this board) visit do some things particularly well.

I appreciate what Clutchfans offers in its entirety, but some constructive criticism on this topic isn't necessarily the worst thing ever.

For one the whole "IBTL!" "STOP MAKING THREADS NOOB!" thing is rather annoying. He is right that it is rather frustrating having to sift through 5 pages of nonsense just to get a small update about something that I want information about.

So there's really two parts to this argument.

1) What Clutchfans does well

Clutchfans is excellent at eliminating clutter for the most part. Thread topics tend to not get buried under a pile of rubbish because the clutch crew does a very good job of maintaining forums, particularly the GARM. This makes reading Clutchfans quite enjoyable and not a huge nuisance.

2) What Clutchfans does not do well

Again, personally I think that while merging threads especially when it's one random joe's random opinion thread is great, sometimes it's frustrating. For example, there was a thread a few days ago on Omer Asik's contract situation. Now I went into the stickied Asik thread and after seeing all the random posts in it I simply just didn't want to take the time to filter that out to get to the info I wanted. Someone created a thread that was very particular to his contract as opposed to the general thread that was ongoing. I found this extremely beneficial as I got the info I needed fast and conveniently. The thread was great.

However, a good 80% of the posts in that thread were "IBTL NOOB." Literally it took 3 posts for someone to accurately answer the question. The rest was just nonsense about forum policy. Why couldn't the thread just die after the question had been answered? It would have still been available for anyone to look at had they felt the need to not read the last 200 posts in a 100+ page thread.

That being said, I understand the annoyances of moderating a forum

Sometimes it's simply a hassle to both the mods and the community to see a billion threads.

I get that.

A possible solution:

I want to point to a forum that I frequent as a good example of something that could be done. I'm sure there are members here of Ultimate-Guitar.com or at least people have heard of it. UG's mod team is excellent both in quality and more importantly in numbers. That's what I think a little bit of focus should be directed towards

Clutchfans could adopt a tiered system of forum moderation. It works incredibly well. A lot of forums employ this strategy to great success.

So you basically have a forum admin who has complete control over forum activities; i.e. Clutch.

On the next level we have bbs mods who have power in all the forums: Clutch Crew

I think there could be low level forum moderators who can keep things organized and handle low admin tasks specific to the forum they are assigned to.

They could be organized as such: 3 GARM mods, 1 Hangout mod, 2 D&D mods.

I think this would greatly reduce the workload that Clutch and crew have and help the site run a bit more efficiently.

This brings me to my next point.

Someone earlier in this thread mentioned having an update specific thread. That is something a "GARM mod" could easily help maintain but would currently probably swamp R2k/DoD/Clutch if they continuously had to monitor it.

Just some food for though. It's at least worth discussing.

[parmesh]

In Before The LOLs