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Go to Dwight early in the game, early in the quarter, early in the shot clock

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by basketballholic, Dec 20, 2015.

  1. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

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    Yeah, this is called covering your bases, so you can later say "See, I called the game when it all clicked." Or something like that.

    My exercise revealed Concerted Commitment has been going on since you first started looking for it Nov 29th, basically something JBB has been implementing for awhile. We were just inconsistent, and going to Howard early and often was not always a winning strategy during your Gap Period, so naturally we are getting better and hopefully more consistent.

    But go ahead and say yesterday was the first time you saw a difference, we all understand why you need to be right all the time, despite saying this on Nov 29th

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=10156843&postcount=5


    Harden has made a concerted effort to get the ball to Dwight the last couple games. I can tell the difference.
    -- Nov 29th, basketballholic
     
  2. Rio Rocket

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    last nights victory proves my theories about the rockets are true
     
  3. T_Man

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    Good post


    T_Man
     
  4. OpenLayup-Why3?

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    Did not happen this game at all what title says, so we Lost
     
  5. ApuN

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    Did just about everything you said, Dwight was still a total f**k up
     
  6. ZomgZ

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    Dwight a has been, he came to h-town because he was gonna get paid, simple as peanut butter and jelly. Now that the rockets see this jam all messy in there face they wonder why laker just said no. lol
     
  7. heypartner

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    Been doing it since a few games after JBB took over, and basketballholic even confirmed it in the Nov 27th and 29th game.

    In the Post McHale era:

    Both Dwight in the low post and our freaking defense is too inconsistent for us to win consistently. And good NBA defenses are clogging our PnRs. Because of that, people forget the losses, and just think none of them had low-post plays or PnRs for Dwight. They all did! Just like this one.

    Do we miss Dwight on Pin-downs? Sure, yeah. Did Dwight go 0-5 on Pin-Downs in the recent LAL and CHA games? Yes. What was the count today?\

    If people would just stop trying to weave a narrative and just watch what JBB is slowly implementing, they'd see simplistic solutions like the OP are just that, simplistic solutions. NBA Defenses will stop them. JBB is doing several more complex things, all to get his two Leaders better looks.


    bottomline: People only remember the wins for preaching about what we should do, and only remember the losses for preaching about what we shouldn't do. That's a fact for how people build narratives when they are so eager convince people, which is weird to begin with, just to look smart ... and basketballholic is a prime example -- plain as day.
     
  8. daywalker02

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    Rofl what about the playoffs when they play hard in early quarters or around the time the NBA rolls into playoff action? :p
     
  9. basketballholic

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    JBB has consistently called plays for Dwight early, including last night. Dwight missed a couple free throws early. But other than that, was good. We got some back and forth helter skelter action early. And that was okay.

    Dwight wasn't the problem tonight. Neither was Harden.

    The problem is we do not have another 5 behind Dwight that is capable of holding down the defensive paint and glass when Dwight sits. We've found decent defensive complements to Dwight in DMo and Capela but both DMo and Capela need an anchor 5 man to play alongside of for them to be most effective and their weaknesses to be covered. Until we get that guy, nights like tonight are going to continue to happen.
     
  10. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

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    So weird. Our answer is to trade for a backup center? I'm willing to bet getting another backup 5 is the last thing most people on this BBS would vote for. And I'll bet the house that Morey does not do that.

    I dare you to start a poll. LOLs
     
  11. basketballholic

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    Start your own poll.

    Doesn't matter to me what other people on this BBS think.


    This team is almost dead last in DRB%. We are 3-13 when we get outrebounded. We are 12-2 when we outrebound the opponent.

    You can watch the games and see the defense.

    We're going to continue to draft through the season at around .500 until we get that second defensive anchor in the middle. Noah, Nene, we gotta get somebody that anochors the paint and vacuums up the boards or we're not going anywhere.
     
  12. OpenLayup-Why3?

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    We are 0-15 when we get outscored. We are 15-0 when we score more than the other team.
    That says it all - we need to score more.
     
  13. basketballholic

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    Nope. Dead wrong.

    We gotta stop the opponent from scoring as much. This will automatically lead to us scoring more. Our scoring is a product of what we do on the defensive end.

    We give up more points than any other team besides the Lakers, Pelicans, and Kings. Yet, we score more points than any other team except the Warriors, Thunder, and Kings.

    We are the worst rim-defending team in the whole league, allowing a league worst 67.5% FG% at the rim. As a result of our porous rim defense, we allow the opponent the best 2 point FG% in the whole league at 51.6%.

    We are the third worst defensive rebounding team in the league ahead of only the Lakers and Bucks.


    Our problems are defensive issues (including rebounding) and it starts at the rim!!!!



    ***If you would like, you can parse this data for the games Dwight has played in versus the games he missed. The defensive issues are magnified even greater.

    This all verifies the eye test. That is to say, watching the games. When we don't have Dwight in the middle we are a complete turnstyle defensively. You can talk Capela up all you want to. But the kid is not ready. He's simply too green, too inexperienced, too light in the drawers to hold down the paint when Dwight is out. We simply have to get that second rim protector or we're going absolutely nowhere.
     
  14. Nook

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    The Rockets issue IS defense and protecting the ball.

    I don't see how anyone can argue otherwise.

    The Rockets are built to force turnovers and turn them into easy points in transition. Harden is good at it, Lawson historically is, that is why Brewer is on the Rockets.

    Forcing turnovers, defensive rebounds and suppressing scoring all lead to the Rockets getting better shots and avoiding bailout shots.

    I will say this too, that is also how you beat teams like the Warriors. You get out in transition and stiffen the defense and limit second chances.

    That is what I mean when I say "execution", and the Rockets are not executing and that is what teams like the Spurs and Warriors do.

    It is also why I kind of chuckle at people that say Thibs is a bad offensive coach.
     
  15. Nook

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    If the Rockets executed better they could probably survive without a second rim protector, assuming that Howard plays 35 minutes a night in the playoffs.

    Having said that, people need to realize just how important Dwight is to the Rockets on the defensive end. The Rockets are a lottery team without him long term. He is the equivalent to Harden, but on the defensive end. There is a wide open lane in the middle of the Rockets defense without Howard.

    Capela is a nice young player, he was a very good draft pick and has value. However he is not ever going to be Dwight defensively, he isn't an anchor like that. He can alter shots but not like Dwight. There are only a handful of guys that complete shut down the paint.
     
  16. heypartner

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    Fully agree...defense is the fixable key to everything, not the minutia of Howard's offense, which always gets better looks when we play better defense, and we do the OP topic anyways, especially in the playoffs. I feel like I'm in a thread about defense now vs about Howard's offense.

    But I wouldn't use up trade assets on yet another backup 5 to get a poor-man's Howard. Defense should be fixable enough (like last year, even when Dwight was out and Capela wasn't even playing yet), to focus your trades on more pressing needs ... like shooting and a Lawson replacement if he doesn't turn it around. You know, like things Morey is talking about.
     
  17. ksny15

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    Dwight was most definitely a problem. His defense was god awful.
     
  18. Zergling

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    So you're asking that we go to one of our most inefficient plays as our bread and butter play? No thanks
     
  19. danoman

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    Go to any Rocket in the last 3 seconds of the shot clock once Harden decides he doesn't see any shot he likes.
     

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