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08-09 team better than 14-15 team?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by phantoman, May 23, 2015.

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Is the 08-09 rockets team better than 14-15 rockets team

Poll closed Jun 17, 2015.
  1. Yes, that squad was going places

    55 vote(s)
    50.9%
  2. No, this years team is deeper and better

    33 vote(s)
    30.6%
  3. Don't care - only championships matter

    16 vote(s)
    14.8%
  4. Tie - if the teams were to play it would probably be a tie

    4 vote(s)
    3.7%
  1. phantoman

    phantoman Contributing Member

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    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-best-nba-teams-of-all-time-according-to-elo/

    According to the link above the 08-09 team is ranked as a better team than the 14-15 team?

    The ELO methodology takes into account schedule strength, this is used to rank every team ever played in the nba. The 14-15 gsw are in the top 10 teams ever to play and along with the 93-94 bulls. The rocket championship team doesn't even crack the top 100 teams ever.
     
  2. ScolaIsBallin

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    That team didnt make the western conference finals. End of discussion.
     
  3. Lorenzomax

    Lorenzomax Rookie

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    NO DOUBT. They fought with the Championship team _ LAL. That series went to the game 7 and now we are down by 3.
     
  4. Lorenzomax

    Lorenzomax Rookie

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    This 14-15 team might be a better regular season team thanks to multiple key injuries aka Durant, Kawhi and Parker. Ya we missed Howard for half of the season but a healthy Durant or Kawhi is just on another level.


    Image if we met the Warriors in the second round.
     
  5. phantoman

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    I think that was the best team tmac and Yao had. Tmac says it in a grant land podcast. I think that team has a better defensive mind set with Yao/Lowry/battier/artest and Hayes - the main thing is the 14-15 team plays above the rim. Which makes beating this years clippers hard for the 08-09 team to beat. So really I am torn.
     
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    If the Rockets can get better defenders, shooters and a playmaker, we can have the best of both. Let's hope for the best.
     
  7. Easy

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    If they played each other in a series, this team would win in 7 games but would be blown out three times in the process.
     
  8. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    The 09 team would crush this years team.

    Yao was far greater than Howard, and Artest would make Harden cry in a corner.

    DD
     
  9. phantoman

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    We need a legit cerebral defender on our team. Someone like battier but is a 1-2 guard. Beverly is an all effort type of defender, kind of like artest. Also at this point the way the team is constructed. We need a r.lewis or Ryan Andersen type PF. So I hope we still try to get illyasova.
     
  10. Houstunna

    Houstunna The Most Unbiased Fan
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    Is TMAC factored into this or the roster that entered the playoffs?

    '09 is probably better
    McGrady
    Yao
    Artest
    Battier

    Mutombo was a great backup C on that squad too.

    We may've beaten LA with a healthy Dikembe.
     
  11. roxallways

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    Fully healthy, the 09 team was the best team of the Morey era. That team had better coaching, better toughness, more heart and higher IQ. This team has more flaws. That team fully healthy would have won the championship that year.
     
  12. daywalker02

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    Still think Kobe, Gasol and Bynum are better than Curry, Klay, Greene, Bogut

    Maybe GS's bench is deeper
     
  13. napalm06

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    Someone with Scola in their username says this?
    That's the beginning of the discussion!

    That team had Deke, Yao, and McGrady go down at various times. That's some hall-of-fame level talent missing from a roster that took the eventual champs to 7 games!
     
  14. daywalker02

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    Oh my memories.... Was Von Wafer part of that group?

    Could very well be ....just a hunch ... another talented bench knucklehead

    way better coaching
     
  15. shastarocket

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    Why would TMac be a factor?

    08-09 would have been a bad matchup for this year's team
     
  16. rocketsjudoka

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    If healthy that 09-08 team is probably better than this team but the team that took the Lakers to 7 wasn't anywhere near full strength. Even missing Montejunas ans Beverly the current team is more talented than the 09 team that played the Lakers.

    The one thing though I will give that team though is more heart and character. This team did something incredible in coming back from 3-1 but a team with Chuck Hayes playing center took the eventual champions to 7 including a blowout win at TC in game 6.

    2009 Rockets next to the championship are my favorite team. That said the season isn't over yet for the current Rockets so let's not eulogize them yet.
     
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    Yeah the 08-09 team was miles better than this one at every position. If only they hadn't been derailed by injury. Much more heart than this team too.
     
  18. ibm

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    mentally, the 09 team was miles beyond this current team. no doubt.

    talent-wise, the 09 team was better too.

    but they had much worse luck.

    but who cares about the what-ifs. i dont.

    in a league where only the championship is the ultimate goal, you can call whatever a "success", or you can call anything but the title a failure. isnt that the reality?

    of course, it depends on what perspective you may have or not have. i am sure the perspective is different for,,, say les and me...
     
  19. RedRedemption

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    They lost to the eventual champions.
    And Lakers steamrolled everyone else on the way.

    Think its safe to say the winner of that series might have won the whole thing.
     
  20. apollo33

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    Scola and Landry would eat TJones alive

    Yao was better than prime Howard, he would dismantle this version of Howard
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    Terry can't guard Aaron Brooks and Lowry , Battier and Artest would make Harden cry
     

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