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Why Has the Obama Administration Declared War on Medical mar1juana?

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  1. Hightop

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    "At the end of the day, California law doesn't matter"

    Tim Fernholz November 9, 2011 | 12:00 am http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/97203/Obama-medical-mar1juana-crackdown

    Los Angeles—When you get a new car, you start noticing the same model all over the highway. It’s the same way when you figure out what California’s mar1juana dispensaries look like—green crosses and signage about “medicine” and “420” start popping up all over the City of Angels: On your commute to work, in your neighborhood, around the corner from your favorite restaurant. To put it bluntly, it’s not hard to find weed in California.

    But that all might be about to change. The state’s four U.S. Attorneys are gamely trying to alter the broadly popular status quo with arrests and threats of prosecution and property seizure for landlords who rent to dispensaries, a campaign announced in a rare joint press conference in October. Medical mar1juana advocates call it an “intense crackdown” and have launched a lawsuit claiming the federal attorneys’ tactics violate California’s tenth amendment rights (Rick Perry, call your office).

    State and local officials, meanwhile, are divided in their reactions to the influx of dispensaries in California, but many say that overly eager federal intervention is undermining the state-regulated medical mar1juana system that they have taken pains to set up. In other words, as long as the federal crackdown contained itself to targeting egregious offenders of state law, it was hard for anyone to object; many applauded. But by raising the prospect of a federal assault on city mayors and town councils, Obama’s Department of Justice could be making more enemies than friends in California.

    CALIFORNIA’S mar1juana DISPENSARIES got their start in 1996, when voters passed a state referendum making medical mar1juana legal. They only truly expanded in 2003, however, when the state legislature laid out a set of rules for non-profit dispensaries to follow. Now there are nearly 2,000 of them across the state, dispensing mar1juana to anyone with a prescription from a medical doctor.

    But when a 2005 Supreme Court case reaffirmed the mandate of federal officials to enforce national anti-mar1juana rules, that placed California’s U.S. Attorneys in a tricky situation. They somehow had to reconcile their mandate to enforce all federal statutes with existing state laws in California that seemed to violate the Controlled Substances Act. In 2007, the Bush administration’s U.S. Attorneys responded by launching a campaign similar to the current one. That led to the closure of dozens of dispensaries, but had little lasting impact—today, there are more than two times the number of dispensaries than existed four years ago.

    Even still, the Bush-era campaign left scars on the minds of medical mar1juana advocates. Most backed Barack Obama’s presidential campaign in hopes that he would shape a more congenial federal environment. Advocates had reason to be optimistic: As a candidate, Obama talked about easing off enforcement on pot offenders and famously told an interviewer that of course he had inhaled—“that was the point.” And the initial signs were promising: After Obama took office in 2009, the Department of Justice released the Ogden Memo, which stated, in so many words, that the DOJ should really only be prosecuting mar1juana dispensaries that are using or abusing state law to traffic mar1juana for a profit, and not waste its time (or tarnish its image) prosecuting cancer patients and their caregivers.

    But prosecutors and advocates both admit that the situation on the ground has changed since the memo’s release: As fear of federal prosecution lessened, more states began adopting or considering medical mar1juana laws; where the practice was already legal (as it was in California), there was a boom in the mar1juana trade. Operating in a grey market between the federal prohibition and untested state rules, dispensaries of all kinds operated without much supervision. Cities and towns, some with an eye toward economic opportunity and others to codify community standards, began filling in the blanks left by the broad state law with rules and ordinances governing the operation of dispensaries and growers—where they could be located, how many would be allowed, what kind of security and verification procedures they must use.

    Though law enforcement officials could not point to any commensurate increase in crime, all that activity made the federal government uneasy: It realized that tacitly allowing states to regulate medical mar1juana had far-reaching consequences that it wasn’t entirely comfortable with. Thom Mrozek, a spokesman for the Los Angeles U.S. Attorney, acknowledged that his office took notice of the explosion of storefront dispensaries across California in the last two years, sometimes in violation of local zoning bans. With local and state officials writing letters to their U.S. Attorneys, asking for their thoughts on various schemes to license mar1juana growers and distributers, the federal government decided to take a tougher line. This June, the Department of Justice responded with another memo recognizing this growing trend and clarifying its position, and reclaiming the prerogative to make arrests for any mar1juana offenses: “Persons who are in the business of cultivating, selling or distributing mar1juana, and those who knowingly facilitate such activities, are in violation of the Controlled Substances Act, regardless of state law.” Enforcement efforts against dispensaries in California followed soon after.

    California is a diverse state, and some local officials have cheered the greater federal intervention, citing their own frustrated attempts to close dispensaries that were clearly not in compliance with state law. Scott Smith, city attorney for Lake Forest, a town in Orange County, says that after fruitlessly spending $585,000 in legal fees fighting the dozen dispensaries in his town through the zoning board (eight of them in the same strip mall, near a Montessori school), his city contacted the U.S. Attorney for help. Smith points out that none of the dispensaries he challenged in court had even bothered to make the case that they were a non-profit—i.e., in accordance with California law. Others are part of national trafficking operations: The Feds are prosecuting the former owners of a now-defunct Hollywood dispensary for shipping mar1juana to New York and Pennsylvania.

    But the U.S. Attorneys’ enforcement actions haven’t been limited to such egregious state lawbreakers. Indeed, they’ve sent letters to non-profit cooperatives warning that they could be prosecuted and their property seized. In Mendocino County, DEA agents raided the farm of a grower known for working closely with the local Sheriff to regulate mar1juana, down to individually marking each of his plants with a zip-tie to confirm that it was allowed by state law.

    mar1juana advocates are largely skeptical of the Obama administration’s intentions, saying that its crackdown is motivated not by a desire to fight criminality, but by a fear that the burgeoning medical mar1juana industry was threatening its own authority. “They did not want to see a full blown state-by-state licensing system that would have legalized large-scale distribution of medical mar1juana,” Kris Hermes of Americans for Safe Access says. Hermes says that federal agents have even gone so far as to threaten state lawmakers in Montana, Washington, and Arizona with prosecution if they proceed with plans to legalize and regulate medical mar1juana in their states.

    “At the end of the day, California law doesn’t matter” to the U.S. Attorney, Mrozek counters, but “it is our position the mar1juana stores operating in California are not only violating the spirit of California law, but are in fact violating California law.” This is where California and Federal officials tend to part ways. State Attorney General Kamala Harris has voiced the concern that “an overly broad federal enforcement campaign will make it more difficult for legitimate patients to access physician-recommended medicine in California.”

    Indeed, the irony is that federal intervention may be making it harder for California officials to convince mar1juana dispensaries and growers to keep their operations above board and play by the state’s rules. And U.S. Attorneys have even informed city officials in the cities of Chico and Sacramento that they could be prosecuted for setting up licensing schemes; similar messages were delivered to state leaders in Washington and Arizona.

    mar1juana ADVOCATES APPEAR more concerned about the U.S. Attorneys’ attacks on the prerogatives of local government, the most successful venue for their cause, than the new enforcement push. This new development has prompted Americans for Safe Access’ tenth amendment lawsuit against Attorney General Eric Holder, accusing him of unconstitutionally “commandeering” local governments to enforce federal law. They say that the federal government has no business using threats to prevent state and local officials from enforcing state laws around medical mar1juana, even if they violate federal statutes.

    Even on the pure practical level of enforcement, meanwhile, advocates argue that Federal involvement might not make the most sense. “Beyond prosecuting a handful of people or threatening a few landlords, it’s questionable what the federal government’s capacity is,” Hermes says. While everyone, including the Feds themselves, acknowledges that the DEA has bigger fish to fry, local authorities have proven capable of taking action to enforce their own regulatory regimes: Just last year, the city of Los Angeles shut down over 400 dispensaries in an effort to regulate and zone them, a move criticized by the caregiver community, but one that brought at least a modicum of order to the city’s chaotic pot infrastructure and was even quietly welcomed by some dispensaries.

    While the legal battles around Los Angeles’ ordinance and those in other cities appear never-ending, a local approach could prove more effective than the U.S. Attorneys’ heavy-handed enforcement when it comes to smoking out which weed shops are for-profit or front for organized crime: L.A.’s rules, after all, had already managed to close the shop housing the $15 million trafficking operation now being prosecuted by the FBI. But future efforts at the state and local level are unlikely to be successful if officials continue to be threatened with federal prosecution for trying to make their own laws work.

    Tim Fernholz is an editor at GOOD Magazine in Los Angeles.
     
  2. MoonDogg

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    Same reason as every other president since dirty dick.....
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  3. StupidMoniker

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    This is what happens when the Constitution is trampled by a liberal Supreme Court. If Wickard v. Filburn had been decided in accordance with the Constitution, then Gonzales v. Raich would have gone the other way and states would be able to legalize drugs.
     
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    War on med mary no... war on illegal operations probably. If every dude with a grow room opens a shop then that becomes a problem.
     
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    didnt candidate obama promise to end the raids on dispensaries?
     
  6. rocketsjudoka

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    If I recall correctly early in Obama's term he directed the DOJ to make cracking down on dispensaries a low priority.

    I am not sure why things have changed recently.
     
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    it's ****ing bull**** and reason #1 i'm staying home next november.
     
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    Absolutely, we wouldn't want these shrewd business men to be able to operate completely under the US Government's nose, keeping their men in line with harsh penalties and using brutal violence to eliminate competition.

    That would just be stupid.
     
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    Is medical mar1juana your most important issue when it comes to voting?
     
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    the issue itself isn't #1, but the blatant lie by this administration regarding it and the fact that i know several people in cali who have been helped tremendously by medicinal mar1juana who now may face having to either go without or break the law to get it if they want to continue to help themselves is infuriating. especially when actual criminals from wall street and previous administrations get to go on as if they've done nothing wrong.
     
  12. across110thstreet

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    there are way too many unregulated dispensaries operating illegally in the State of CA, that is the aim of the crackdown.

    the fact is, there is still organized crime revolving around the "canibusiness" in CA.
    I have seen dispensaries raided and robbed (by criminals, not the FED), with shady characters running them into the ground, only eventually to be shut down for operating illegally under the rules of Prop 215.

    if anyone can get medical mar1juana in CA, why is it called medical mar1juana?

    Prop 19 failed, but the proper approach is to regulate and legalize, instead of operating under the guise of providing safe access to medical patients.



    Holder and Obama's statements from '08 and '09 have always maintained that they would not prosecute the patients, and that would not prosecute the growers, caregivers, etc... who follow the state law

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/19/new-medical-mar1juana-pol_n_325426.html
     
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    The cartels have moved in and are growing in ca and co(other states too I'm sure) and shipping nationwide now. Washington gets nervous about it and unleashes the dea. The dea...they dgaf, they'll arrest everybody and sort it out later.

    Unless it's legalized nationwide, this will always be the case. It's the same game that gets played at the US/Mexico border. As long as you can jack the price of a product up astronomically by just crossing a line in the dirt, the cartel or similar will always thrive.
     
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    Of course, it wasn't the Obama administration that "declared war," they are just continuing the same failed strategy that their predecessors did.
     
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    Probably just gearing up for the next election.
     
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    Santa never brought me everything I wanted either.

    But this is probably way under Obama's radar, considering his priorities. It's probably some DOJ mid-level hardasses more concerned with maintaining the enforcement of Federal laws on the books..precedent...not soft on crime for when they run for office.
     
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    its a giant facade. for all intents and purposes, weed is legal in cali and i think its great. the stuff they get out there is highly potent. ive been to amsterdam and the stuff out in cali knocked me on my ass.

    i read an article in the l.a. weekly rag a year or so ago talking about the dispensaries. it seemed like the "authorities" were intentionally ignoring the issue and allowing it to spiral out of control so at some point in the near future they can point out how bad it is and try to end it altogether.

    if they wanted to regulate it i dont think it would be very difficult to do so - and you can easily negate the gangs influence by requiring growing to be done 'on site' or at least in a licensed growery. tax and regulate - if you catch people breaking the laws fine the hell out of them - if they are repeat offenders, take away their license.

    i cant believe how widespread it got though - something like 1 pot clinic for every 10k people.
     
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    I live in SW OR where there are lots (and I mean lots) of "legal" grows. Medical mj is even advertised on the radio. "Come into our clinic if you need help."

    We've had a number of local raids recently, much like what is happening in CA.

    Here's the deal. All of these growers may have been sanctioned by the state but there are a bunch that are not above board. There is a lot of "legal" mj making it to the streets, usually through swaps and sales that wash the product just like money is laundered. It is a sophisticated, multi-state operation and it is not surprising that the feds have stepped in here.

    I don't know why the feds aren't talking about the raids, but when they do I would bet that they focused on grow sites where lots of guns and bricks of cash were also found.

    And remember, there is a Supremacy clause in the Constitution and just because something is on the books in a state does not make it Federal law. If what I suspect is true... that they are going after the people abusing the system, putting drugs on the street, and participating in a criminal enterprise... well, knowing what I know about the local "business" I'm inclined to give the feds a little leeway in this.
     
  20. Hightop

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    Obama is a disgusting human being. His followers are complete morons.

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