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[Hardwood Knocks Podcast] Houston Rockets 2015-16 Season Preview

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by cdrive, Sep 15, 2015.

  1. cdrive

    cdrive Contributing Member

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    I'm about 9 minutes into this and it's pretty good stuff. Right now they're discussing Lawson's & Harden's off ball shooting percentage stats, and discussing how the new combo will work. Quality discussion so far... might be some good 'audio wallpaper' for your day.

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Houston Rockets preview! Are they underrated? Can Harden &amp; Lawson coexist?
    iTunes: <a href="https://t.co/XjARYHLXkB">https://t.co/XjARYHLXkB</a>
    Stitcher: <a href="http://t.co/tw5boHre6W">http://t.co/tw5boHre6W</a></p>&mdash; Andy Bailey (@AndrewDBailey) <a href="https://twitter.com/AndrewDBailey/status/642390863197290496">September 11, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  2. Roc Paint

    Roc Paint Contributing Member

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    Thanks cdrive.
     
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    I see that they are skeptical about Lawson's ability to play alongside Harden.

    I think it will work beautifully.

    Most would agree that Harden was relied upon TOO much last year. Harden was amazing. But as amazing as he was offensively, the team's points per game were still about 4 points less than the year before. That's a really big difference.

    The reason is that they had nobody else who could facilitate at all. Nobody. Chandler Parsons was very good at keeping the offense churning the year before. He didn't necessarily have a ton of assists (he had 4 per game, which isn't bad), but he sparked the offense with a pump fake and a drive to the basket. He would then dish the ball out, swing it around, someone else would drive, etc. So even if he wasn't getting an assist, he was big in ensuring the offense would flow and someone would get a good look.

    Now, with Lawson, that flow to the offense will be restored. Not only will Lawson keep the offense moving, but he can make some assists for easy buckets that Parsons could not make. What Chandler Parsons brought to the offense will be restored, plus some. Then add to that the fact that Lawson will take pressure off of Harden, and Harden will take pressure off of Lawson, and they will have much more space to work with which will also help their individual offense as well as the team's.

    It will work really, really well. This isn't a case where there is only one ball to go around. That might be a problem if you added a THIRD ball-dominant player to the mix. But two ball-dominant players will work just fine. They will just have to get used to playing with each other. It will just take some practice. They'll figure it out, and it will work beautifully.
     
  5. vlaurelio

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    Ball dominant and assist machines at the same time
     
  6. bmd

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    Right. Good point.

    They are ball-dominant, but they dish it out.

    So no matter who has the ball, the offense keeps moving because they are both willing passers.
     
  7. cdrive

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    With a 24 second clock and 48 minutes of play, I think we're going to see this thing work out just fine. It was the prescription Harden and the Rockets wrote for themselves: another playmaker. Why? Cause we're too dependent on Harden when he is on the floor, and the offense evaporates with him off the floor.

    These Hardwood Knocks guys did good in giving me new insight on the off-ball shooting percentages for Lawson & Harden. With Harden it's just insane, ever since playing off-ball for the Thunder. So there is a good data pool for him. For Lawson the number is really good too, but a much smaller sample size, like less than 3% of his shots last year.

    When Harden-Lawson are on the court at the same time as a 1-2 combo, this will happen:
    #1 The defense can't heavily plug down on Harden. We saw the Dubs and a few other teams have success doing this. If they do that with Ty on the floor, then you have another guy who you can kick it out to, who now has the whole floor open since all the help defenders were shading towards Harden, and then Ty can do all the crazy things he can do either for himself, but especially for his teammates to get easy buckets. 2 super playmaker / super scorer guards on the court at the same time is a fantastic thing. I don't care how anyone attempts to spin it otherwise.
    #2 ball stickiness improved from 2 years ago to last season, but the ball does still get sticky. Harden doesn't need to do this anymore. He has another guy who is nearly just as capable as he is with breaking down his defender & the entire defense w/ penetration.
    #3 Harden's minutes will mean more because he won't have to shoulder the load the entire time he is playing. He'll be less tired.

    But the bigger thing is Lawson running the offense when Harden isn't on the floor. (14 to 18 minutes a night) Harwood Knocks guys talked about the Rockets Offensive Rating w/Harden on the court and off the court. They made a fair mention that it could be good case data for Harden being MVP, but it also shows how dependent our offense is on the guy. 48 minutes of uninterrupted efficient, hi-octane, easy bucket offense is a beautiful thing. Plus our system is designed for layups, dunks, and 3s. And when it comes to dunks, specifically alley-oop dunks, Lawson is one of the very best alley oop lob specialists the league has ever seen. With current players its Chris Paul and Ty Lawson. No one else is even close to being on their Lob Mountain. And Ty will have 2 really excellent guys he can lob it too: Howard ...and (ready for this?) Capela. Behind those two, TJ and Brewer and go up there for you. But Dwight and Clint both have the nose/instincts and athleticism for Lawson's lob game.

    Little side factoid they brought up that I thought was shocking: Dwight missed more games last year than all of his previous missed games in his entire career combined. :eek: And we still won 56 games. And we still went to the WCF with 2 missing starters. I don't care so much about where we rank in the eyes of national sports pundits, but they didn't recognize how far we got missing so much. Everyone seems to immediately place Spurs, Thunder and Clippers ahead of us. Doesn't matter, but it's interesting to me how non-Rocket folks are sleeping on how significant it is just for us to get healthy guys back.
     
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    These guys are right. We need to jam the ball down other team's throats using Harden every single play. Don't worry about it when teams adjust and Harden is obviously winded. There is NO room for a second playmaker.

    WTF?

    These guys completely flipped their script and said the opposite of what they started out saying. Terrible journalism. They should have written this out before they started. They've completely lost me.
     
  9. bmd

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    For this season, the 3 guys predicted:

    54 wins
    55 wins, 5th or 6th in the West
    55 or 56 wins, wouldn't be surprised if they finish below that



    wtf
     
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    one more alley-oop recipient i can't wait to see is KJ…….imagine him on the wing in transition
     
  11. dharocks

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    Um. Who are these dudes again?
     
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    It seems their two major criticisms are:

    1) Not sure Lawson can play off ball with Harden
    2) Dwight's post game

    Dwight's post game was addressed last year. There was a noticeable change in the amount of touches he got before the Harden/Terry/Dwight meeting and after. I expect his post touches to stay low, as DMo takes more of those duties and Lawson handles the ball more.

    Morey said he thinks Lawson is fine shooting off ball, so I'll take him at his word. Denver relied on Lawson like Houston relied on Harden, but the difference is while Harden proved he can be a very good off ball player in OKC, we've never seen the same from Lawson.

    Put me in the camp that thinks Lawson will be plenty effective off ball, but ultimately it really won't matter. Each of Harden and Lawson will play 14-16 minutes per game without the other. Of the 14-16 they play together, let's say Harden plays primarily off ball for half of it, which will be a tremendously successful offense.

    So really the concern is the 7-8 minutes Harden and Lawson play together and Lawson is off ball. Can anyone legitimately argue Harden/Lawson is worse than Harden/Beverley? Harden/Beverley was probably one of the top 5 duos in the league last year simply because of how good Harden is. While Beverley *might* be the better spot up shooter, it's not by a huge margin. Lawson would clearly be the better slasher/finisher around the rim, and he's probably a significantly better "hockey" assist guy than Beverley.

    I expect 60+ wins, and I don't see a legitimate argument for anything less than 58.
     

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