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Here are some of the blatant holding screens the Warriors are getting away with...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bmd, May 21, 2015.

  1. bmd

    bmd Member

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    These aren't just "moving" screens where the screener just kind of sticks his hip out. I didn't even bother with those since they happen on almost every play.

    But look at what they are getting away with:


    On this one, Bogut just straight-up grabs Ariza so that the shooter can shoot:

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    Here, both Curry and Thompson are grabbing and pushing on their screens. The only reason this doesn't work better is because the Rockets switch:

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    On this one, Curry tries to grab Harden to free up Iguadala, but Iguadala doesn't take the screen. But Curry is trying:

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    Here is Bogut again using his hands to push, then moving backwards to push Brewer out of the way so that the shooter has an open look. Just blatant:

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    Bogut AGAIN grabbing holding and bumping Smith so that Curry has an open shot in the corner:

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    Green runs up the court, then sticks his ass out in order to bump Terry, giving Curry enough separation to drive to the basket:

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    Here is Curry again trying to hold on his screen just for a second. Holding a guy just for a second could be enough time to catch and shoot:

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    Here is Green flopping and holding Ariza down to get Curry open:

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  2. Amel

    Amel Contributing Member

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    LOL

    these all seem fair...maybe one was a bit rough
     
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    HOLY HELL THAT IS TERRIBLE.

    DD
     
  4. tmac2k8

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    I can't see any of these Gifs or whatever they are..
     
  5. thirdengine

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    I saw screw it and just start tackling them.
     
  6. bmd

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    They are vines. Maybe you have to click on them to get them to play?

    Maybe wait a second and they'll load?
     
  7. RedDragon01

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    God, watching these replays is pissing me off soooo very much.

    These are the kinds of plays that the refs tonight cannot let go, and I don't think they will.

    I think we take tonight's game because the refs call as fair a game as they can. I have hope, anyway.
     
  8. lastreg

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    I think the gifs shows that Warriors invented some new methods that blocks opponent from getting close to shooters. some players of them would run into the defense instead of looking for open space to get a pass from the ball handler, they just flat out blocks your way so that shooters can shoot.
     
  9. bmd

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    Bogut is the biggest offender.

    But he only played 16 minutes last night.

    He had 3 egregious holds that freed up shooters for wide-open 3's in only 16 minutes.
     
  10. bmd

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    And that is against the rules.
     
  11. Shaq2Yao

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    You have to wonder if Kerr's and his coaching staff taught the players these dirty moves. There are lots of players doing it. Knowing the type of hypocrites Kerr is, I am not surprised at all.

    I hope Curry's flopping fine is a first indication that league will not let Warriors continue to get away with murder.
     
  12. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    Cuban would have had at least 4 Warriors' players and 3 referees arrested by now, lulz.
     
  13. moestavern19

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    Yup. To any fan with a well-trained eye this are blatant, but the refs don't seem to give any ****s.
     
  14. shastarocket

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    The 2nd one was fair and the Curry holding is typical of most teams, but ANY of them involving Bogut are ridiculous. This is hands down his greatest value on the floor.
     
  15. bmd

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    I think so. There were a couple of them I couldn't get to upload.

    One was with Livingston literally pushing Ariza out of the way so that he couldn't close out on Curry.

    There was another with Harrison Barnes grabbing Terrence Jones' arm and trying to pull him out of bounds under the basket so that he couldn't step up and challenge a lay-up.



    McHale said there was a lot of grabbing and holding, and he had a first-row seat.

    It was their whole team. They are for sure taught to do that.
     
  16. Zergling

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    I didn't think all these were that bad, but hopefully Morey pulls a Mark Cuban and puts these all on a tape and sends to the NBA league office
     
  17. G0 R0CKETS

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    It's called home cooking.
     
  18. bmd

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    It really wasn't. The only reason it was "fair" is because the Rockets switched everything and didn't try to fight around the screens.

    If Thompson came off of Curry's "screen" (which was a hold), and the Rockets weren't switching, you would realize how blatant it was.

    Even still, you cannot run at a defensive player and wrap your arms around him.
     
  19. DenisM

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    Am I the only one here who thinks that most of them are OK, and rarely some ref will call them? All of them except the 3rd one and the 5th one are fairly ok.
     
  20. N2bnfunn

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    I posted and said the same thing the day after the game.. THE BLIND REF's are letting them set moving screens all game long period..
     

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