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Vince Carter turns back the clock once again

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by KingCheetah, Dec 23, 2014.

  1. Dgn1

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    Dam, I had a look on my face like I seen grandma naked.
     
  2. J Hard

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    Man you're the ultimate TMac troll. Never seen someone troll anyone other player, team, city, sport, etc the way you do man :eek:
     
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    Lin but he is not that gifted
     
  4. tinman

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    Vince Carter is still in the league, and still dunking

    Tmac is still dunkin..donuts
     
  5. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Will you ****ING STOP already. Even those of us on your "side" are totally beyond sick of this crap. This could be a great thread about Vince, but you make snide remarks about has-been who-cares players so that you can put the stupid "arguments" on repeat for the one billionth time.
     
  6. Jontro

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    Forget the superheroes, I want to have Vince's super power.
     
  7. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    No doubt. I thought he would have a bigger role in Memphis than he has, but I guess time still wins all battles.

    This dunk was so inspiring to see -- he turns 38 tomorrow. (Sorry if somebody already posted that; I had to start scanning the thread due to troll activity.)
     
  8. Jontro

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    I think it's a shame that for a big part of his career, his nickname was Air Canada. I mean they seriously can't think of anything better? Air Canada sounds like he's gonna jump up at you, offer you apple juice and some pancakes. Not threatening at all.
     
  9. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    And apologize after each nasty dunk.
     
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    Thought it was vincanity
     
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    You realize this thread is old right? When the tof swwvguy stops making references I will too.
     
  12. Jontro

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    I think Vinsanity came later. I may be wrong though, but I remember hearing commentators repeatedly forced Air Canada during his Toronto years and thinking how truly unfortunate it was. I guess that's how the Half-Man, Half-Amazing and Vinsanity came about... people didn't want to say Air Canada.

    Lelz. Reminds me of Yao :(
     
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    I wish I could jump as high as 38-year-old Vince Carter right now.
     
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    God damnit Tinman -- you've annoyed B-Bob -- that should tell you that it's time to STFU. Quit sucking swwwwwyguy's micro-penis every time he mentions Tracy.
     
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    Tinman is that annoying friend that can't stop talking about what a b**** his ex GF was, even after 10 years.
     
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    And now he has TWO ex's.
     
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    Good timing for this article.
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    From superstar to sub: The unlikely longevity of Vince Carter

    The smile is still there, that big toothy grin Vince Carter debuted to an NBA audience in 1999, with Toronto. It’s the patches of grey whiskers flecked around it that declare the passage of time. The athleticism is still around, too, that same burst that turned the Grizzlies forward into one of the game’s most feared dunkers. These days, Carter is just more judicious about calling on it.

    “I always tell guys, it’s the landing that sucks,” Carter said. “Getting up there is fun. It’s like a road trip; it’s fun going but it sucks driving home.”

    At 37, Carter is a member of a select group: All-Stars turned role players, superstars turned subs. The transition is difficult. Some have succeeded (Jason Kidd, Jermaine O’Neal) and others (Allen Iverson, Tracy McGrady) have failed. The willingness to accept a lesser role isn’t wired into all and the ability to maintain a breaking down body is embraced by fewer. Said Mavericks coach Rick Carlisle, “Generally, guys later in their careers still want to start. What Vince is doing, it’s not the norm.”

    It’s easy to forget how good Carter was in his prime. Athletically gifted with a rapidly improving perimeter shot, Carter was an offensive force. He averaged 20-plus points in 10 of his first 11 seasons. He was an eight-time All-Star and two-time All-NBA selection. He has a Rookie of the Year award on his résumé​ and spent most of the 21st century ranked among the league’s most feared scorers. Had he retired when his contract expired with Phoenix in 2011, Carter would have already had a solid case for the Hall of Fame.

    But he didn’t. Carter has never had a specific number of years he planned to play -- “I want to say 15, but I really don’t know,” Carter said -- but when he left the Suns, he knew he wasn’t finished. To keep playing, though, Carter had to adjust. A starter virtually his entire career, Carter understood he needed to accept having to come off a bench. “But honestly, I didn’t care,” Carter said. “I just wanted to play basketball.”

    In Dallas -- which signed Carter to a modest three-year, $9 million contract in 2011 -- Carter was initially a starter. He shifted to the bench and struggled to find his rhythm during the lockout-shortened ’11-’12 season. He averaged 10.1 points on a career-low 41.1 percent shooting. Defensively he battled to stay in front of younger, quicker two-guards. “It was tough,” Carter said. “I’m not going to sit here and say it was a quick change. I watched a lot of film and I was patient with it. When you get in that role, you do think, ‘Oh I don’t know if I can do this.’ But you have to give it a real chance. I did and it got better and better.”

    Indeed, Year 2 in Dallas was measurably improved. A full-time reserve -- and small forward -- Carter settled into a secondary role. Jason Terry, the Mavericks longtime sixth man, was gone, and Carter told Carlisle: Put his responsibilities on me. “He came to me and told me he wanted that role, he wanted to be that guy,” Carlisle said. “He was willing to do anything.” That season Carter’s scoring improved to 13.4 points per game and he knocked down 40 percent of his three’s for the first time since the ’04-’05 season.

    Why was Carter successful with the second unit? Carlisle has a few theories. His dynamic scoring ability, for starters. “He can come off the bench and get hot immediately,” Carlisle said. “He is wired to get the ball in his hands and knock his first shot in like very few are.”

    Said Carter, “I have to come in with a scorer’s mentality. As a starter, you can come in and ease yourself into the game but still be aggressive. When you are playing shorter minutes, you have to be ready to go immediately. There are limited minutes. The approach changes.”

    Being naturally comfortable in a supporting role helped, too. In Toronto, Carter was burdened with unrealistic expectations. He was “Air Canada” and “Half Man, Half Amazing," the physically gifted phenom expected to lead the expansion Raptors deep in the playoffs. He did once, in 2001, taking the team to the Eastern Conference semifinals. That season was bookended by a pair of first-round exits; Carter was labeled soft and after two playoff-less seasons was traded to New Jersey in 2004.

    “He had been through a lot as a star,” Carlisle said. “The expectations on him [in Toronto] were ridiculously high. Going through that, I think, made him more comfortable going to a team with good veteran players and taking on a role.”

    Said Carter, “There was a lot expected of me [in Toronto]. I thought I was able to attack the challenge. But I think that did help me understand the process of changing my role.”

    To help, Carter has put in countless hours maintaining his body. He does regular leg work to try and keep as much of his spring as possible. He routinely lifts weights after practice. At home, he does daily light work- -- “Old man workouts,” Carter said- -- before practice to stay loose. The result: Carter played 81 games in each of his last two seasons in Dallas. “I work like hell to make sure my body is in top shape and I am able to last throughout the year,” Carter said. “The older Vince feels better at season’s end than I ever have before.”

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    You're an odd duck.
     
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