Spanoulis wins Europe

[MamboRock]

Originally Posted by Nook #1 I am sure VSpan enjoys the wonderful economy in Greece, and the smell of piss and burning tires that overwhelms that **** hole.

Stay classy. You don't have to insult a whole country just because you hate a certain basketball player.

Oh I forgot classy and you do not go in the same sentence.

[milica]

Originally Posted by Nook I should explain myself better.... NBA offenses are extremely complicated right now, more so than ever before and as a result defenses have become more disciplined and have had to follow suit. I played in college in the late 90's, we uses zone off and on.... but nothing like what some teams are running now.

I understand. You believe the offense evolved naturally, and then the defense followed suit?

I think the offense had to adapt to zone defense, with more complicated set plays and better jumpers (specially 3pt shooting which is still the best way to break any zone).

Btw European basketball has been using complicated offensive plays for decades. It had to base on team play, since we never had the athletic abilities you have in US. Even the best player of the team, even Spanoulis as the triple mvp, every single one must always play within the system.

P.S. I would not feel sorry for Spanoulis, he's living on the Mediterranean, playing only two games a week, and earning millions. Not a bad life at all...

[Akkuron]

Yeah I bet the economy in Greece is really taking its toll on Spanoulis and his 7 digit paycheck. The only thing the recession did was force his team to unload everyone in order to keep him and surround him with young talent and low-pay hard workers. Two consecutive titles later, I'd say it worked out pretty well.

Poor him, his villa is almost within 5km of some middle class people, life must be hard!

[Haymitch]

I can't believe V-Span is still such a big deal here.

[Rocket Booster]

From a vote of top the 300 basketball journalists in Europe..........

http://basketball.eurobasket.com/Eur...ds_2013/317011

Eurobasket.com All-Euroleague Awards 2013 - May 16, 2013


Finals MVP: Vassilis Spanoulis (193-G-82) of Olympiacos

Player of the Year: Vassilis Spanoulis (193-G-82) of Olympiacos

Guard of the Year: Vassilis Spanoulis (193-G-82) of Olympiacos

Forward of the Year: Rudy Fernandez (198-SF-85) of Real Madrid

Center of the Year: Nenad Krstic (213-C-83) of CSKA

European Player of the Year: Vassilis Spanoulis (193-G-82) of Olympiacos

Import of the Year: Shawn James (208-C-83) of Maccabi T-A

Defensive Player of the Year: Shawn James (208-C-83) of Maccabi T-A

Rising Star Award: Kostas Papanikolaou (206-F-90) of Olympiacos

Coach of the Year: Georgios Bartzokas of Olympiacos


1st Team

G: Vassilis Spanoulis (193-G-82) of Olympiacos
G: Dimitris Diamantidis (196-G-80) of Panathinaikos
F: Rudy Fernandez (198-SF-85) of Real Madrid
C: Nenad Krstic (213-C-83) of CSKA
C: Ante Tomic (218-C-87) of FCB Regal

2nd Team

G: Milos Teodosic (195-PG-87) of CSKA
G: Juan Carlos Navarro (192-G-80) of FCB Regal
F: Viktor Khryapa (206-F-82) of CSKA
F: Nikola Mirotic (209-F/C-91) of Real Madrid
C: Shawn James (208-C-83) of Maccabi T-A

3rd Team

G: Jordan Farmar (188-PG-86) of Anadolu Efes
G: Sonny Weems (198-G/F-86) of CSKA
F: Kostas Papanikolaou (206-F-90) of Olympiacos
F: Stephane Lasme (203-F-82) of Panathinaikos
C: Maciej Lampe (211-F/C-85) of Caja Laboral

Honorable Mention

C: Kyle Hines (198-F-86) of Olympiacos
F: Bojan Bogdanovic (203-SG-89) of Fener.Ulker
C: Paul Davis (211-C-84) of Khimky
G: Bobby Brown (188-PG-84) of Montepaschi
G: Ricky Hickman (189-PG-85) of Maccabi T-A
F: Bostjan Nachbar (207-PF-80) of Brose Bask.
G: Marko Popovic (185-G-82) of Zalgiris

All-Europeans Team

G: Vassilis Spanoulis (193-G-82) of Olympiacos
G: Dimitris Diamantidis (196-G-80) of Panathinaikos
F: Rudy Fernandez (198-SF-85) of Real Madrid
C: Nenad Krstic (213-C-83) of CSKA
C: Ante Tomic (218-C-87) of FCB Regal

All-Imports Team

G: Bobby Brown (188-PG-84) of Montepaschi
G: Jordan Farmar (188-PG-86) of Anadolu Efes
G: Sonny Weems (198-G/F-86) of CSKA
F: Stephane Lasme (203-F-82) of Panathinaikos
C: Shawn James (208-C-83) of Maccabi T-A


This is from a league that has many NBA rotation players playing in it. Yet, we are still supposed to believe that Van Grumpy worshipers that Spanoulis "isn't good enough to play in the NBA".

[Rocket Booster]

Originally Posted by Nook I remember a few years ago at the SL, being in attendance and VSpan's name came up and Morey just smiled and snickered... that was enough for me.

The NBA scouts and GMs that were in attendance at the 2013 Euroleague London Final Four were laughing at Morey's Euro crush, Sergio Llull, being completely dominated by Spanoulis.

[SamFisher]

Originally Posted by Akkuron Poor him, his villa is almost within 5km of some middle class people, life must be hard!

Middle class people in Greece = people with a 2-ox barn.

But no matter all of the luxuries he has that most Greeks don't, like electricity, slightly less choleric water, a covered latrine - he still must wake up every day with knowledge that he wasn't good enough to play in the NBA. That must sting, no matter how much extra goat butter you produce.

[Carl Herrera]

So, are people also complaining how NBA teams ruined/misused the other All-Euro team players like Nenad Krstic and Rudy Fernandez or how they stupidly failed to develop and fully utilize Jordan Farmar and Sonny Weems?

[Nook]

Originally Posted by MamboRock Stay classy. You don't have to insult a whole country just because you hate a certain basketball player. Oh I forgot classy and you do not go in the same sentence.

Read what I responded to, VSpan insulted an entire nation..... so stay classy.

P.S. Greece does smell like a sewer. I have been there 3 times. Italy is FAR nicer.

[Nook]

Originally Posted by milica P.S. I would not feel sorry for Spanoulis, he's living on the Mediterranean, playing only two games a week, and earning millions. Not a bad life at all...

I certainly don't feel bad for VSpan. He is a superstar in the second best basketball league in the world, he makes millions of dollars and has a beautiful wife. Life is good for VSpan.....

[Akkuron]

Originally Posted by SamFisher Middle class people in Greece = people with a 2-ox barn. But no matter all of the luxuries he has that most Greeks don't, like electricity, slightly less choleric water, a covered latrine - he still must wake up every day with knowledge that he wasn't good enough to play in the NBA. That must sting, no matter how much extra goat butter you produce.

You seem incredibly dedicated to this routine. Well, unless you actually believe that... but that's an off-topic discussion in a thread that's barely on-topic in this forum as is.

[roksoer]

I can't believe someone in this thread said NBA offenses are extremely complicated