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[ESPN] Rookie Watch: Which veterans should the rookie class study?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Matt78777, Mar 25, 2008.

  1. Matt78777

    Matt78777 Contributing Member

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    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/columns/story?columnist=thorpe_david&page=RookieStudy-Durant

    Here are David Thorpe's words on who Scola and Landry should study:


    On Scola



    On Landry



    I would post pictures but I'm at work so I can't. Lock if this is already in another thread.
     
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  3. Matt78777

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    I thought the Murphy Scola thing was kinda weird, and at this point I'd settle for Scola making consistent midrange jumpers like he was earlier. Thorpe has a good point on Landry though. He seems to have all the tools to be a big time player, but can he be a go to guy? It's nice when he hustles and gets those put backs and takes a T-Mac pass and dunks the hell out of it, but could he be good enough that Adelman could give him the ball and say, "Here you go, I need you to score right now"? That to me would be the difference between Landry's ceiling being a borderline starter for a good team or a star on a good team. A little bit of offseason time on the practice court might be the difference.


    Any idea on who Aaron Brooks should study?
     
  4. DrNuegebauer

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    i would've thought Landry should study someone like Antonio McDyess (pre-knee injury) to see a player to style himself on.

    Similar build/ athleticism, be good for him to see how he could really become a 'presence'!
     
  5. heypartner

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    why doesn't Landry study Scola's craftiness and Scola study how Landry gained 4.5 inches vertical . Then we'd have two crafty dunkers.
     
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    I should have included Thorpe's intro and explanation behind the picks. I just added it. He didn't necessarily pick the veteran most like the particular rookie, but rather a veteran who, if the rookie can emulate in a certain way, will elevate his game to the next level. For example, he wants Durant to get Allen Iverson's "I'm going to win this game by myself" fire, but not necessarily his style of play. I think he also only matched rookies with current veterans who are at their peak this year (so Mcdyess pre knee injury doesn't count).
     
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    ehhh..HOW about FREETHROW shooting first.... :D
     
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    Scola = should study little of Tom Chambers and little of Wes Unseld and even a little Rony Seikaly.

    Landry = should study Amare Stoudimire & Shawn Kemp (offense): Anthony Mason (defense)
     
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    Me thinks Senior T-Mac should put that on his to do list.
     
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    How about this one:

    Aaron Brooks should study Chris Paul. Aaron can match him on speed, and he does well going to the basket with a pick. If he could consistently hit mid range jumpers off picks like Paul or throw that nifty little bounce pass to the screener for a screen and roll, he'd be lethal, like Paul.
     
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    i don't quite get it. being able to shooting 3's? isn't it good for any power forward or even guards?

    imho, you can't teach athleticism. to expect scola increse his hops just isn't realistic. landry's gain of vertical to me is more like he gets back what he used to have. i'd like see him perfect that mid-range jumper.

    for landry, it's the handle and creating his own shots. a tall order for anyone who hasn't yet been able to do that.
     
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    While he's at it, how about:

    Yao: (yes I know he's not exactly a rookie)
    Imitate your game after Hakeem. Easy enough.

    Tracy:
    Just copy Magic Johnson. Easy enough, also.

    Landry:
    All he's missing are some handles and more consistent shooting. He should be like Carmelo Anthony. Easy enough too.
     
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    Wow. That was horrible. Paul Peirce? LOL. That's about as asinine as a recommendation for Yao Ming to study Chris Paul.

    newsflash: carl landry is a power forward with no post game. here's a thought - how about work on a jump hook or something before we start patterning our game after one of the most dynamic perimeter players in the league.
     
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    I think that Scola is already better than Troy Murphy.
     
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    Scola will never be able to shoot from 3.
     
  16. Bassem

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    I think if Luis and Carl can get those mid-range jumpers consistently, then they'll be more dangerous than ever, cause they got their inside game down pretty well.

    Of course there's always room for improvement, and through experience and time, hopefully they can improve their defense and outside game.
     
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    I think asking our power forwards to learn the three point shot would be a little too much.

    Remember what happened to Chris Webber? He could have been a very good low post player if he just stayed consistent and played within his position. Instead he wanted to do everything else including the three point shot. I think it really took away from his game.

    I agree with everyone else that having a very consistent mid-range jumper would help spread the floor for our cutters, and draw defensive pressure from our other players.

    As for Aaron Brooks, I think he has the potential of being a better shooter than Chris Paul. It'd be great if he studied how to play better defense though. His smaller size hurts a lot when we play bigger point guards.
     
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    Why does everyone want 3 point shooting PFs? Sure, it is a great skill to have a but a guy's offseason could be spent learning/practicing more important things.

    I don't remember McHale, Barkley, Malone, Duncan etc being marksman from behind the line. I do remember them being deadly in the post and from 15 feet in.
     
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  20. Precision340

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    who is this david thorpe guy? we don't need 3 pt shooting PF... they shouldn't even roam anywhere near the 3 pt line

    david thorpe needs to study bill simmons
     

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