1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Would you include Canaan in a trade for Gogi or Rondo?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Plowman, Nov 29, 2014.

  1. Plowman

    Plowman Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 1999
    Messages:
    12,274
    Likes Received:
    13,207
    I love Dana Barros Jr, but I'd definitely do it. This guy is going to be force in this League...at minimum, as a pure scorer for years So, I don't say this lightly, but our window is now,and his trade value is really moving. I'd much rather trade Bev at this point... I know his defense is great, but Rondo can still play excellent defense and Gogi is no slouch ...by a longshot. Esp. with Dwight backing them up.Seriously, I want Dana to stay, for now, be the sixth man...and take one of those two point guards. But if it comes down to it. Bye Bye....
     
  2. shastarocket

    shastarocket Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2006
    Messages:
    13,773
    Likes Received:
    1,082
    Nick Johnson has potential,time to start a Canaan Appreciation thread
     
  3. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2002
    Messages:
    46,550
    Likes Received:
    6,131
    Rondo yes.

    Gogi will ask for the max and I'm not sure he's worth it.
     
  4. saleem

    saleem Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2001
    Messages:
    29,299
    Likes Received:
    13,443
    I would rather look for a PF first. No doubt we need a player who can create shots for themselves and others like Goran, but we are really handicapped with Jones' injury despite his limitations. D-Mo has improved but he can't do much against elite 4's.

    I like Rondo too, but I am not that keen on him.
     
  5. finsraider

    finsraider Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2010
    Messages:
    6,924
    Likes Received:
    4,984
    If you have to, then yes. Preference is still to use all our assets on a PF.
     
  6. RoxBeliever

    RoxBeliever Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2009
    Messages:
    6,608
    Likes Received:
    134
    You would need to. The window on Harden-Howard is very short. Go all in these next two years.
     
  7. jump shooter

    jump shooter Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2000
    Messages:
    5,429
    Likes Received:
    145
    Would do it in a heartbeat, biggest no brainer need for this team is PG. If Harden keeps up this pace he'll have nothing left at the end of the season.
     
  8. kemah

    kemah Member

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2014
    Messages:
    1,069
    Likes Received:
    27
    Rondo would be a cancer to this locker room and Dragic is not worth a max to play 2nd fiddle to Harden. One max guard is plenty. To get either of these players would mean we are locked down in salary cap with no way to win deep in the playoffs.

    Look if some hate Harden then just say so and stop trying to take the ball out of his hands. He is a top 5 ball handler now.
     
  9. pippendagimp

    pippendagimp Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2000
    Messages:
    27,021
    Likes Received:
    21,237
    the coaches probably know more about nick johnson's jumpshot than we do at this point. but if he can drain open 3's, the rest of his game (6'3" frame, plus defender, finishing above the rim, good passer) fits in with us better than canaan's anyways.
     
  10. kemah

    kemah Member

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2014
    Messages:
    1,069
    Likes Received:
    27
    Or he could be a big bust.
     
  11. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    89,538
    Likes Received:
    43,123
    2nd rounders aint called bust, they usually do not pan out
     
  12. pippendagimp

    pippendagimp Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2000
    Messages:
    27,021
    Likes Received:
    21,237
    there is a chance for luther head part 2, yes. he's definitely a high IQ player though, so as long as his shot is legit, it looks like decent odds he'd be serviceable
     
  13. Solaris

    Solaris Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2013
    Messages:
    875
    Likes Received:
    45
  14. raining threes

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    12,680
    Likes Received:
    8,326
    Yes I would, but I wouldn't want too, but I'm hopeful that the Hawks will except the Bev/NOP pick for Teague offer that's out there.
     
  15. kemah

    kemah Member

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2014
    Messages:
    1,069
    Likes Received:
    27
    lol

    Everything is possible. He appears to be a high IQ player but time will tell.
     
  16. Easy

    Easy Boban Only Fan
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2002
    Messages:
    35,165
    Likes Received:
    24,192
    Somebody may need to start a thread "What exactly did Canaan do?"

    You guys are really quick to jump to conclusion. The dude has done well in about 10 NBA games and you know that he is going to be a force in the league? And you people laughed at the Lin fans for basing Linsanity on how good the guy would be.

    I am very happy about Canaan's performance so far this season (last season not so much). But let wait a little longer to say whether we shouldn't give him up for some established NBA players.
     
  17. oakdogg

    oakdogg Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 1999
    Messages:
    3,112
    Likes Received:
    253
    Why do you consider Isaiah Canaan Dana Barros Jr? They both can shoot and are guards. Dana was slight as heck though and Isaiah is very stocky. Getting to the line wasn't a big part of Dana's game, while Isaiah has gotten to the line at every level except for the NBA (crossing my fingers). I don't recall that specifically, but I don't think Dana was much of a defender either.

    I would think maybe Troy Daniels would be a better comparison to Dana Barros? Except Troy doesn't have Dana's handles.
     
    1 person likes this.
  18. basketballholic

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2013
    Messages:
    17,516
    Likes Received:
    4,170
    I agree with Plow. Would rather trade Bev in a deal for Gogi and keep Canaan. Partly because of the contracts though. Bev is coming up on free agency and will likely get around $30-35 million on a 4-year deal. That contract will clog our cap space going into 2016 and that contract will be much more difficult to move at that time with teams wanting to take a shot at 2016 free agency.

    Canaan, on the other hand, is basically locked up through 2015-16 with a small cap hold for 2016. His contract fits better with what we want to do....especially if we acquire a point guard that can defend like Rondo or Gogi.....or Rubio. And Canaan's contract will be much easier to move next season than Bev's new 4-year deal if we need to move out salary.

    But the bottom line of it all is....it'll probably take Canaan to make a deal go down. Teams typically value offensive excellence over defensive excellence. And I really wonder if Morey values defensive excellence over offensive excellence AT THE POINT GUARD spot, since they are so many offensively lethal point guards and so few defensive counters to all those offensive point guards...who typically represent 1/2 or 1/3 of their team's core.

    All the same....I'd trade both guys for Gogi/Rondo/Rubio if we could keep the NOP pick. I'd trade both of them for the great 2-way PG, and then go sign a young, grinding defender like Aaron Craft to be my new Pat Beverley and then possibly go after a replacement for Canaan in the form of Andrew Goudelock or some other player like that. Maybe even bring Akeem Richmond up from RGV as a Canaan ball replacement.
     
    #18 basketballholic, Nov 29, 2014
    Last edited: Nov 29, 2014
  19. basketballholic

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2013
    Messages:
    17,516
    Likes Received:
    4,170


    You have to know talent. Some of us knew last season that he was a better player than Lin. But most did not. They can't see it until they look at a year's worth of boxscores. You have to know talent. If Canaan stays healthy he is going to be a handful for NBA defenses to deal with.
     
  20. ballplayer

    ballplayer Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 1999
    Messages:
    735
    Likes Received:
    172
    It depends, for Gogi? then yes because can shoot the 3. If for Rondo, I would try damn hard to keep him because Rondo can't shoot. Doesn't mean I wouldn't do it though. I can see a Rondo/ Troy Daniels back court being a spark if Harden needs a breather.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now