1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

2015 Random Astros Trade Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by The Beard, May 2, 2015.

  1. The Beard

    The Beard Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2012
    Messages:
    10,434
    Likes Received:
    5,694
    Agreed

    Here is the problem though, the guys that make it through waivers aren't typically really good. I mean there are usually some guys that can help you, but nothing great.

    With the depth that we have on this team right now, there aren't many guys we could get rid of to add a guy like that. I mean pitching wise, we just send VV down and not because he can't help, because we just don't have room. I don't see a pitcher better than him making it thorough waivers??

    Everyday players the bottom guy has to be Carter, agreed? Not maybe I could see us putting him through waivers and trying to move him, to open up a spot for someone?

    We are really deep, gonna have to be someone with nice ability for us to make a move...pretty incredible to be able to say that
     
  2. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Go Stros!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 1999
    Messages:
    23,939
    Likes Received:
    14,010
    Regarding bullpen, no one will get through waivers better than in-house options. Extra bat, Joey Votto may clear waivers...but then I don't know if Crane would want a bat that is too expensive for the Yankees.
     
  3. sealclubber1016

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2010
    Messages:
    19,150
    Likes Received:
    27,934
    We don't really have bad pitchers in the bullpen. It feels like some of them have been terribly unreliable, but overall it's a pretty solid pen.

    We were going hard after Kimbrel because he was dominant, and a dominant guy clearly improves the bullpen, but dominant guys don't get through waivers. The best we could hope to find are solid guys, and we already have those.

    The only hitters that will get though are guys will monster contracts, and we aren't gonna take on one of those.
     
  4. Scolalist

    Scolalist Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2010
    Messages:
    3,590
    Likes Received:
    57
    Appel, Velasquez, Fiers, Feldman, Fields are arms that should be in the mix for bullpen roles in the playoffs
     
  5. vince

    vince Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2000
    Messages:
    3,253
    Likes Received:
    2,488
    Anybody get wind of the package the Astros agreed to send the Phillies for Cole Hammels? Before Hamels nixed it!
     
  6. Scolalist

    Scolalist Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2010
    Messages:
    3,590
    Likes Received:
    57
    I'm sure it had Appel, Phillips, Marisnick
     
  7. bobmarley

    bobmarley Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2003
    Messages:
    6,489
    Likes Received:
    318
  8. juicystream

    juicystream Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2001
    Messages:
    29,288
    Likes Received:
    5,401
    There may not have been any official deal on the table.
     
  9. Airdough

    Airdough Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2014
    Messages:
    1,205
    Likes Received:
    29
    The obvious guys no, but there are some that might sneak through. K-Rod (age plus contract might keep teams in front of us from claiming, Grilli would be included if not for Achilles tear), AJ Ramos of the Marlins, Cody Allen of the Indians, Carson Smith of the Mariners (plus others in a solid bullpen), Tampa Bay pen has a few arms that could make it to us, JJ Hoover for the Reds (he doesn't have the K/9 numbers), and Benoit for San Diego.

    Kimbrel and Chapman might not but there are arms out there that could be had who could have an impact. Luhnow's trade comments were always left open ended when it came to the deadline, I expect him to add another piece or two if the right players makes it to the Astros on waivers.
     
  10. rocketpower2

    rocketpower2 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    11,030
    Likes Received:
    2,393
    We weren't the only ones.
     
  11. The Beard

    The Beard Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2012
    Messages:
    10,434
    Likes Received:
    5,694
    Yea, there have been some pretty good players move in August

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/08/notable-august-trades-2012-14.html

    I would guess a guy like Benoit would make it through waivers, as when he was signed he was "likely the closer" and has an 8 million contract next year, doubt anyone including us would claim that. Shields would probably get through also, but then again not sure getting a deal done with Preller is very likely

    K-Rod at $5 million next year would likely get claimed, that doesn't seem like the kind of contract that would keep some teams ahead of us from taking him on.

    Key in a lot of this is that if you claim someone, you either work a deal for them or they are pulled back and that is it. For the guys that make it all the way through waivers with no team claiming them, can be traded just as if it was July
     
  12. The Beard

    The Beard Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2012
    Messages:
    10,434
    Likes Received:
    5,694
    Also, guys like Ramos, Allen and Smith are not signed to big contracts, Smith is at 500K and the other in arb years. Those guys would be very unlikely to make it through waivers.

    It would most likely be older vets who teams are trying to get some salary relief from. Just a quick scan through rosters and salary commitments there doesn't seem to be many of those types this year, but i'm sure there will be a few get through
     
  13. cangrejero51

    cangrejero51 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2014
    Messages:
    4,920
    Likes Received:
    44
    Alex Torres designated for assignment, i like that pitcher, but someone will take him before us.
     
  14. tmactoyao

    tmactoyao Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    10,472
    Likes Received:
    6,433
    Torres is horrible.

    We should've got O'Flaherty as a pure lefty specialist. His splits are crazy v lefties...too bad the Mets got him first.
     
  15. cangrejero51

    cangrejero51 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2014
    Messages:
    4,920
    Likes Received:
    44
    When he was with TAmpa he was awesome. Last 2 years he has struggle with walks. He is more of a left handed pitcher vs right handed hitter type of pitcher, but he is a plus 9K per 9 innings and less that a 1 hit per inning guy. Only 27 so i can see this guy rebounding.
     
  16. rocketpower2

    rocketpower2 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    11,030
    Likes Received:
    2,393
    http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer...ds-throw-late-deadline-curves-and-other-notes

     
  17. juicystream

    juicystream Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2001
    Messages:
    29,288
    Likes Received:
    5,401
    What a total lack of confidence in yourself if you don't think you can pitch with the Crawford Boxes. Keuchel is sure making those look like a non-factor as a LHP. They haven't been consistent winners over the last 6 years because of a lack of young talent. If he came here, the team would have: Hamels, Keuchel, Altuve, Springer, & Correa over the next several years as to core of a multi-year contender.
     
  18. cardpire

    cardpire Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2008
    Messages:
    10,809
    Likes Received:
    769
    Oliver Perez traded to Stros.
     
  19. tellitlikeitis

    tellitlikeitis Canceled
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2009
    Messages:
    19,702
    Likes Received:
    10,192
    Holy crap, I remember when he mowed everyone down in Pittsburgh in 04... and then proceeded to fade into oblivion
     
  20. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    85,743
    Likes Received:
    84,117
    I like this, they needed another lefty.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now