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At this point, do the Texans just need to hope a Top QB becomes disgruntled?

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Snow Villiers, Aug 26, 2015.

  1. Snow Villiers

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    Do the Texans need to hope that a top QB becomes disgruntled and asks for trade heading into the 2016 season so that we can be a legit threat in the post season?
     
  2. Ericstocracy

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    Will not happen. The only disgruntled QBs are those that aren't good and are failing their team. Otherwise, If a franchise has a good QB, they will do whatever it takes to keep them.

    It will never happen.

    They'll be drafting a QB next year. There will be anywhere from 4-6 QBs next year that have potential to start that will get drafted within the first 2 rounds. I think next year is the year they sell the farm and acquire said guy. Have him compete with Savage, who by then at the very least should be you're backup QB.
     
  3. Cannonball

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    Top QBs rarely change teams. Manning did because of the injury, and the Colts knew they could take Luck #1. Brees did when San Diego suddenly had the problem of having both him and Phillip Rivers.

    The most likely way is through the draft. It just sucks that the Texans sucked a year too early. OB wasn't interested in Bortles (at least not at #1) or Bridgewater or Garoppolo (or Carr). We'll see how that works out for him (he'll be heavily criticized and second guessed if any of those guys become elite) but he wasn't willing to tie his coaching tenure to any of them (if they fail, he fails). Had we had the #1 last year, we definitely would've taken Winston or Mariota. All we can hope for now is that there a worthy QB available when we pick (Hackenberg, Cook, Jones) or that somebody drafted a little later (a la Russell Wilson) can emerge (Savage in a year or two?).

    I'm all for patience. I'd rather wait for a QB than commit to the wrong guy and end up in a QB death spiral like Cleveland. People might be upset about the QB situation here, but unlike other teams who feel the need to do something ASAP and find themselves in bad situations, the Texans have not committed to a QB.
     
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  4. J.R.

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    Jay Cutler? :grin:

    Peyton Manning? Pass.

    <strike>Rivers?</strike> A chance until he signed his recent extension.

    Sam Bradford? Pass.

    Colin Kaepernick?

    Eli Manning? FA-to-be in 2016; wants to be highest paid QB; talks have stalled with NYG but gotta think they'll get something done sooner or later.

    Bob Griffin?
    /troll :)

    Drew Brees? Hope the Saints suck/blow up.
     
  5. Nick

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    Andy Dalton possibly gets cut if he has another awful post-season or the Bengals just spin their wheels again (or their owner just gets cheap, as Dalton basically has a pay-as-you-go contract after this season).
     
  6. Two Sandwiches

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    Nope. This is the year we draft one. Should be a strong QB year.

    I'm hoping we do something like Connor Cook in the first and Jes Conner in the second. Would go a long way to solidify the offense.
     
  7. Major

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    There's no such thing as a QB death spiral. If you pick a terrible one, you'll be terrible - which gives you another opportunity to get one. Cleveland's problem is not some kind of spiral where one bad QB decision led to another - it's just that they keep selecting QB's that turn out to be terrible. But they move on from these QB's fairly quickly. The new rookie contracts make that very easy.
     
  8. cardpire

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    Brees is the only one who I'd both want, and has a slight prayer of happening, IMO.

    Interested to see what would happen if they suck.
     
  9. Nick

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    [​IMG]

    Cleveland fans are thrilled with your optimism... they'd all say its not just a spiral.... its something much worse.
     
  10. Major

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    They can believe it's a curse or bad management or whatever else, but it's not a death spiral. Picking Brady Quinn is not why Brandon Weeden sucked. Each of these QBs are independent decisions that led to independently terrible QBs.
     
  11. No Worries

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    Is Johnny Football disgruntled?
     
  12. RocketsJumer

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    No one is ever going to give up a quarterback unless he become a total cancer, and even then smart teams aka team who usually have the better quarterback make sure their quarterback is happy with them.

    Even if a top tier quarterback magically appears on a trade block, what can we offer back? Hopkins? Sell on the potential of a Kevin Johnson or Clowney? Past those three and Watt, we really don't have any thing of value that a team would trade a good quarterback for.

    Our only hope, barring having another horrible "Everything that could have gone wrong, went wrong" season again, is stumbling on an quarterback that was unknown/slipped in the draft. But who knows if our front office is capable of finding guys like these, with their history of poor mid to late round picks.

    Should have just picked Bortles a couple of years ago and bank on his potential. Would be lightyears better with him behind center than anyone we have now.
     
  13. J.R.

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    Even though they're trotting out Fitz/Mallett/Keenum/Savage/Hoyer, is it okay to say no to Dalton? :p

    Meh. Hometown kid but doesn't really do much for me.
     
  14. Nick

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    Right... and also led to consistently changing regimes all with vastly different/radical ideas on how to build a team, and each regime gets shuffled out with yet another failed QB.

    Do you applaud them for making the still awful decision to draft Manziel last year?
     
  15. Nick

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    It was last year... and have you seen Bortles?
     
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    Surprised nobody has mentioned the obvious choice...RGIII.
     
  17. TheRealist137

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    The Texans will rue the day they didn't trade up to secure Bridgewater.
     
  18. Cannonball

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    You don't want to condemn a guy because of his rookie year, QB's need time to grow. But Bortles was THE worst QB in the league last year. Worse than Fitz, worse than Hoyer. Now, you'd expect him to be better in his second season. But based on what he did last year, no, no we would not be "lightyears" better with Bortles at QB.
     
  19. bingsha10

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    You have to get the number 1 pick and draft a can't miss QB or you have to draft a decent one and develop him for 3 years.

    What you can't do is pick a decent one, get impatient, and throw him out there to fail.
     
  20. Nick

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    There's too much of the "win now" mentality in the NFL to allow for some of these guys to get some much needed development time. Mariota would also benefit from this.

    Out of the 3 best QB's today (Rodgers, Brady, Manning)... only one of them was starting from the very beginning (and he happened to be one of the most no-doubt #1 overall QB's taken... unless you think Ryan Leaf should have really been selected over him).
     

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