Houston to bid for Super Bowl LI (UPDATE: Houston lands 2017 Super Bowl!)

This question is going to be very specific, and I mean this in the nicest possible way:

Can you ****ing read?

 

Do you know what winning is?

 

It's infuriating to read your wrongness posted over, and over, and over and over again....the same wrongness. I'm trying to help you. Stop, read, absorb, learn....

 

I suggest you contact six flags to find out why they didn't enact your fool-proof plan.

I also suggest you rally all the people you claim to come to Houston to visit the Astrodome now, and organize a benefit with them to save it.

Ironically, I think the #1 adult demographic that regularly frequents amusement parks happens to also be huge NASCAR fans... I'm still trying to figure out why you keep mentioning it.

 

In ten short years when Cal McNair starts asking (through intermediaries) for a new stadium they can throw the demolition cost in with the 2.5 billion price tag of the new stadium. Then 20 years after that the unborn can do battle in virtual Braveheart or Mad Max realms to determine the fate of NRG.

 

They like ballet, too

 

I see you're back to equating a professional sports team to an amusement park...

I've asked before, I assume I'll ask again at some point, but... what was embarrassing about losing the Oilers? It had zero-point-zero to do with fans, their support, etc. It was a pissing match between old, rich men in which one of them decided to take his ball and go home.

I don't think Baltimore was embarrassed when the Colts literally moved in the middle of the night, and I don't think Cleveland was embarrassed when their greedy owner sold out decades of community support. Pissed? Disappointed? Sure. But when the fans/citizens are sidelined from the process, there's absolutely nothing to be embarrassed about.

Yeah, how many "true" Houstonians were going to AstroWorld?...

This idea that things to do - any old thing - make a city better is just more silliness. Houston has three tremendous sports facilities, one of the nation's leading theater districts, a foodie paradise, terrific parks, a world-renowned rodeo, incredible museums, art shows (and parades), a top-flight marathon... I'm wasting my time, aren't I? I'm dealing with someone who thinks AstroWorld would fit comfortably among that mix...

You should move to Dallas: they have NASCAR and an amusement park; sounds like a wonderful Saturday afternoon...

 

Bro...

 

Never said they are equal, but there are glaring similarities.

Was the Buffalo game embarrassing?

Since fans played zero role in that outcome, they can't be embarrassed?

Using that idiotic line of thinking; fans can never be mad or disappointed either, since they're not playing.

It makes a city look bad when things shutdown.. period. It's disappointing, embarrassing, and angering.

If you think AW and the Eight Wonder are "any old thing", I'm not trying to convince you.

The short-sighted granddad forgot his grandkids might wanna ride some rollercoasters.

Move to Dallas because I don't like NASCAR..... lame.

 

No, not really... not in terms of cultural and financial impact; national recognition. Night and day.

Ah, OK... yes, as a fan, a franchise's cataclysmic errors and mistakes can be embarrassing. But Houston did not suffer from losing a football team. And certainly not from AstroWorld closing.

No it doesn't; not universally. Things fail all the time for a variety of reasons. The Oilers' "failure" here was a direct result of its belligerent, greedy owner. If anything, Lanier and the business community's refusal to roll over (again) for Adams should be admired.

An outdated amusement park that had little to no cache beyond Houston failing because of corporate and community disinterest is not embarrassing. You've said it yourself... it needed an update and the company - not city - failed to deliver, rendering the park even more obsolete. It's time had come; nothing embarrassing about that.

You keep trying to align AstroWorld with the Dome... Supporting a professional sports team has a seismic impact on a community compared to a local amusement park.

a) I don't have grandchildren; b) what does entertaining my children have to do with you calling a third-rate, outdated local amusement park closing a civic embarrassment?

It's something to do, and that's apparently all a city needs to be great! Something to do...

 

"Not really" means they are "some" similarities, just not many. That's just using your words.

Both are entertainment and major attractions.

People who aren't Scrooge realize this.

The city isn't in shambles without sports or amusement parks, but both are things that make a city better.

Hot climate Houstun has no amusement park. Such a shame. Losing Astroworld was embarrassing and the plan for land is too.

Blowing off your children's entertainment.... short sighted and embarrassing.

 

Sure, OK: they're both entertainment and attractions.

But in terms of cultural and economic impact, as mentioned: night and day. One has both, the other is AstroWorld.

Also, people that are at least legal drinking age or with an IQ above 30. No one fought to keep it; no one lamented its demise - heck, no one in this thread has agreed with you, and you sure as heck-fire haven't found anyone that termed its closing an embarrassment.

If the lists extends to two or three dozen things - I guess they're both on there... You're vastly overrating the amusement park. Ever been to Branson? Amusement parks (not named Disney or Universal) generally don't attract the most culturally evolved people...

Let's back up - Houston didn't "lose" AstroWorld; an independent corporate entity shuttled it due to underperformance and general indifference. Stop pretending AstroWorld was a major attraction that the city of Houston refused to keep it so it packed up and moved to a culturally superior city.

It was outdated, attendance was lagging, and there was virtually no uproar over its demise.

What a strange, irrelevant comment... My children (who are 5 and 3, btw, so congrats for aligning yourself with recent toddlers) have nothing to do with your asinine claim that AstroWorld closing was a civil embarrassment. It obviously upset you. But no one was embarrassed. In fact, by the end, I'd wager more people would rate *going to AstroWorld* far more embarrassing than the prospect of it closing.

 

Exactly

False. A poster mentioned he wished he could've taken his kids there.

Most people don't travel anyway, so their perspective is limited to begin with.

Why would an amusement park, specifically, attract "culturally evolved" people?

Sounds like you think "rollercoasters" are somehow beneath you, and anyone who does like them are lesser than you.. lol. Okay, Scrooge.

Houstun is lesser without a major theme park. Period.

It's really a shame AW, or any major park, doesn't exist.

(don't take it personal as if the citizens of Houstun messed up)

In conversation about amusement parks (something kids tend to like), it's strange and irrelevant to mention someone's kids? Okay, Scrooge