*****ing Florida: Michael Dunn convicted of attempted murder; jury can't decide on murder

And a reasonable person might choose to go BACK to their car once the police dispatcher told them that they didn't need you to follow.

GZ followed, was told not to follow anymore, continue following, and an altercation happened.

You don't know how that happened. All we have is GZ's word that TM was the aggressor. It is certainly plausible that GZ caught up to TM and aggressively confronted.

You don't get to start a fight, then shoot the guy you're fighting because they are beating the $h!t out of you. Scratch that, GZ has proven that exact scenario can happen, in Florida at least.

 

Gladiato -- you're wrong on the TM case. You were duped by the biased media from the beginning, and now it's a pride thing where you're trying to defend what you've said for months and months on this topic. Study the actual trial.

 

Nothing he said has anything to do with the media portrayal of TM.

All you have done is conveniently placed a biased opinion on GladiatoRowdy's opinion as biased. Please prove with facts that Gladiato's opinion was manipulated by the media.

Instead of sticking to the talking points I would focus on the statements he made referring to the incident. What can we learn from this case? Should non-law enforcement neighborhood patrolmen be allowed to carry a weapon? Should they be allowed to actively confront suspicious individuals or just be allowed to report them? Do you think nothing should be changed because what happened here is ok?

 

lil -- You're wrong on virtually every case. I didn't consume anything in the "biased media" regarding this case. I also didn't say diddly squat about the trial. You need some reading comprehension classes, your Rice education looks wasted if this is how you analyze the written word.

 

Dunn is so full of it. Mr. "I'm the victim here". What a joke!

He was the victim of loud music. That's it!

Also, if you've seen the video, then you hear pop...pop...pop...pop...about a 5 second pause....pop...pop...pop...pop. Gee...thanks for pausing and then unleashing your next volley of shots there.

Mr. Dunn is not the only person who ever pulled into a gas station only to have to hear some idiot blaring their car sound system while they fill up. Yes, it's inconsiderate but is it really worth arguing over when you will be gone in a few minutes and it will be over? People who do blare their sound systems are typically lowlifes looking for trouble as they lack common decency by ignoring the people around them. They just don't care. No talk from a stranger is going to make a difference. It doesn't mean you can go off on them with a gun. If anything, then it's a warning not to engage them on it because they didn't care to begin with and no lecture or rant at them is going to change their mind.

Mr. Dunn belongs in jail for the rest of his life because he lacks common sense.

 

More importantly, should Trayvon had hung up the phone and called the Police? The Police would have known that GZ had called them about TM. Problem solved. Please don't tell me that you'd tell your son to confront someone and wind up asaulting them (of which there is proof of) for following him.

He made statements that he calls facts. There was no proof that GZ continued to follow TM. None, period.

 

Or just start doing vigilante justice. I prefer that honestly.

 

These are some neighbors and acquaintances of Michael Dunn.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aocMpoAs59o[/youtube]

 

Double jeopardy is not an issue and the re-trial set for May. Verdicts on the other charges will weigh pretty heavily against him in a re-trial.

 

Michael Dunn found guilty of first-degree murder in death of Jordan Davis

 

About time

 

Definitely seems like the right verdict. You can't shoot at people because they are annoying you and think they are bad people.

Plus firing a gun at a gas station is pure stupidity. This is the problem with giving people the ability to carry guns around. They use them when it's not a threatening situation, and it emboldens them to create conflicts which would never have happened.

This is a serious issue. While Zimmerman was let go and that was the right verdict, had he never had the gun, it is very possible he would not have confronted Martin in the first place.

 

because you might shoot someone? I think that could happen anywhere.

 

Well, perhaps a spark might ignite some gasoline vapors? Whether directly from the gun discharge or the bullet glancing off of a metal car while it is being refueled...

 

LOL K. I forgot what forum I was reading.

 

Are you serious?

 

Happens in movies all the time. Surely Hollywood wouldn't lie to us?!?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuZxFL9cGkI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tYO4jvnJHw

http://www.snopes.com/autos/hazards/static.asp

Static electricity, but still a generated spark that caused a fire. Irrelevant the cause of the spark if circumstances are just right. Likely, nope. But this forum is based on hyperbole, so gotta roll with it. So, to answer your question, sorta serious, but also seeing how far on a tangent this thread can go.

 

A gun shot from a gun while surrounded by fumes could ignite it and burn the shooter. Also if the bullet hit metal and caused a spark, and there were fumes, that could ignite and burn anyone in the vicinity.

There have been cases of people who lit a cigarette or smoking a cigarette caught on fire at gas stations. There's a lot of fumes while people are pumping gas and if it's not a windy day it could be ignitable.

 

even if you disagree with this, I take it you agree with everything else. Thanks.