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Does Dwight Howard want Stan Van Gundy out as Magic coach

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by mr. 13 in 33, Apr 4, 2012.

  1. Yung-T

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    Gotta trade Dwight from the team or they're looking like fools, he destroys their whole chemistry.
     
  2. Raven

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    Man child wanted out, but didn't have the inner strength to close the deal, but Orlando should have traded him anyway. Hell, Orlando should have traded him last Summer, and spent this short season tanking for the lottery. Bottom line is the Magic are giving us a textbook example in how not to deal with a super star who wants out.
     
  3. JayGoogle

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    These mutherfoppers better not drop out of the playoffs because of this $%&!
     
  4. got em COACH

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    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com..._stan-van-gundy-dwight-howard-charles-barkley
     
  5. Nook

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    I agree he is one of the 3 most impactful players in the game (mostly by default, as there is a black hole at the 5 in the NBA)...... but he is offensively a complete non factor when the game slows down the last 3-5 minutes. He has no moves, is openly going out of his way to not shoot at the end of games and is more easily suppressed than Shaq or even Ewing.

    I think the physical talent is there to win multiple titles in this center devoid game.... and I think his team will always go to the playoffs........ but it is very hard to win when your best player lacks intensity, is easily neutralized by good defense, and does everything possible to avoid any offensive responsibility at the end of games.........
     
  6. Nook

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    You don't get the Howard schtick..... he does not have to have a good game against the Knicks...... he knows that he can do virtually anything he wants..
     
  7. JuanValdez

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    Stan will be fired within a week. What is it with the self-destruction with the van Gundy boys? I wonder if they actually planned to fire him over the summer or not. But, we won't know now because they have to can him before the playoffs.
     
  8. DaDakota

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    I think Stan just got tired of lying about it.....

    I don't blame him, and not surprised all the former players are on DHowards side.

    DHoward has the right to say he wants the coach fired, and SVG has the right to call him out on it....

    Has happened before, will happen again.

    DD
     
  9. CCorn

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    Stan should just quit. He'll get another job easily.
     
  10. rolyat93

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    "Mutually part ways" like D'antoni.:grin:
     
  11. plutoblue11

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    This is starting to prove that some of these NBA players are real b#ttholes, especially Dwight Howard and some of those other Magic players.


    Again, posters, like SPF do not understand the difference between LeBron and Dwight. Lebron either kept his private, did not elaborate very much on wanting to leave town, or heresay. Didn't discuss where he wanted to go every other week, while his team stayed competitive and played at the highest level, possible. He acted as a respectable professional until the decision, and did not throw his team or coach under the bus. Most of all, the one thing you could not take from Lebron was his level of play, he played like the best player in the NBA night-in and night out. He actually wanted to win. With the likes of Dwight or Melo, I seriously question that.

    People think Dwight Howard's a quintessential nice guy, yet he undermines his coach, basically tries to get him fired, while earlier in the season he essentially threw his team under the bus. These brain-dead, dead beats are pretty much taking Howard's side.

    In Dwight Howard's case, he's supposedly a Christian, yet he is engaging in all of this dishonorable behavior towards his GM, his owner, his teammates, and the fans. I'm not even going to touch the baby-mama thing, but realistically I can see why some people get so annoyed with some Christian.
     
  12. jopatmc

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    It was bush league to let Dwight be the de facto GM for the past several seasons. (Orlando)

    It is bush league to let a player decide who the GM and coach are in order to get him to stay. (Orlando)

    It was bush league to discuss firing the coach at this point of the season with the front office.(Dwight)

    It is bush league to lie and deny you did it or wanted it done now as opposed to after the season when the only reason you would discuss it with the front office now is because you wanted him gone now.(Dwight)

    It was bush league for it to be leaked to the media. (most likely by Dwight or his posse)

    It is bush league to dare the media to produce the leaked source when you know they won't because the media leak came from you and your posse. (Dwight)

    It was bush league for the front office to tell Stan.(Orlando)

    And now people are saying Stan Van Gundy is bush league because he didn't lie about it to the media or cover it up????
     
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    If someone high up in the Magic organization liked Stan enough to level with him (in confidence) about Dwight, it isn't bush league to violate that confidence?
     
  14. jopatmc

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    Does it matter after all the bush leaguing that has been going on? No. Stan knows he's gone at the end of the season and he's tired of dealing with the pink elephant and getting bush-leagued. He put Dwight and the organization both on notice. Stan and the fans are the ones truly getting the bush league screw job. I think he did the right thing and smacked it right in between the eyes. I admire that. He's giving Orlando and Dwight a taste of their own medicine and putting Dwight on notice.

    There is no coach, PJax or anybody else, that can effectively lead a team to a championship when he is being undercut behind his back. This fiasco started with Orlando screwing up in the front office and it continues through a superstar player who is now becoming dysfunctional in his environment and trying to force things to happen on an immediate timetable.

    It's on Orlando. And then it's on Dwight. The last guy that should be blamed is Stan. After all, they could've fired him before the beginning of this season if he was the problem.
     
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  15. professorjay

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    Stan, why did you stop protecting the guy who wants you fired?

    HOW COULD YOU!?!?
     
  16. ArtV

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    Even if it's true, you CAN'T tell the media that.
     
  17. SPF35

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    I agree lebron played well during it, the ugy is good, just like dwight. Dwight on his worst night stil impacts the game. These two are the most gifted athletes in the game right now. I think both of their downfalls are mentally and some has to do wiht them being concerned with their brand and celebrity more than hoops.

    As for lebron, did you not read the yahoo article I posted? That was from 2009. He began not just talking, the guy began MARKETING his free agency telling everyone to tune in to july 1st 2010, its going to be a big day in history, then went on saying its not a two team race that every team has a chance and started listing why he loves these cities and the charm can't be compared...the guy flat out marketed and spitted on cleveland's fans and roster. He did this during playing time even.

    His marketing compnay(yes the one he owsn and his friend manages, do you not talk to your childhood friends if you guys stared a business together?) negotiated the ESPN deal while they were in the playoffs.

    He did the same thing as dwight, but he executed it poorly, when he got slack he started saying he wanted to leave for the wins and that is all on his mind if cleveland makes the right moves he will stay. AT the same time, he is calling the shots, every deal that ran through went by lebron, he owned the franchise, had them by the balls, i mean what coach or team can function if one player isn't allowed to be called upon. Basically he did the same thing as dwight, but it worked to perfection until the "decision" and mike brown stood pat in hoping to appease him and ended up fired before lebron left anyways and he didn't do it with a trade in dead line like dwight did but using the free agency leverage. What ruined dwight's ploy was his back and forth and then Stan calling him out.
    if you don't see it you are just having an impartial short term memory to lebron doing the same thing and even worst candidly saying tune into this day so on, did this while they were in play competing and his teammates had to hear about how he didnt think basically he could win with them.
     
  18. Aruba77

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    akward doesn't even begin to discribe that press conference. Thank god we don't have a circus like that going on in Houston.
     
  19. Icehouse

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    ^^^^^^

    LeBron marketed that he would test his free agency, and up until he announced he was going to Miami quite a few folks thought he would still choose to stay in Cleveland. He didn't flip flop on anything during the season, didn't try to get a coach canned. He told everyone he was going to honor his contract and explore free agency when the time came. So you are really stretching trying to compare, unless you think every upcoming free agent should just respons "no comment" to free agency related questions.
     
  20. plutoblue11

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    People are weird. Everyone else acts unprofessional (Orlando Management/Dwight Howard/Orlando Players) and childish (Dwight and some of the other Orlando players).

    You cannot tell me that Stan Van Gundy has not being trying to win with that team, while there otherwise apathetic superstar is to busy worry about glitz, glamor, and how people perceive his image as a nice/good guy (who has done everything in his power to keep his image pristine).


    Fans are even more miserable, because they want to keep the guy who has not won them a thing or even really gotten them alot of glory. Dwight Howard has been fine player and a really good center, but his reign in Orlando will not be particularly memorable when it comes to NBA history. He's an elite level defender, but he is only consider an exceptional player, because position is one of the weakest in modern pro sports history. Honestly, he should never be compared to Shaq, David Robinson, Hakeem Olajuwon, Patrick Ewing, and etc. Hell, is he even as good as Alonzo Mourning or Yao Ming were healthy. Some seem to think so, but I am not one of that some.

    If fans want to show that they are dissatisfied with the team or Dwight, then do not attend games, boycott the games and playoffs. Let them show that we feel like we have not gotten the best quality out of our team this year or ... even our star player. It could go into a multitude of other issues, like high ticket prices, fan appreciation, and etc.

    Moreover, I do not see how fans can admire such a player, like Dwight beyond his basketball talents and so-called good looks and fake charm. It's funny how Dwight came in the league said all of the things he wanted to change about it, yet became some of those things, himself. Funnily, the one man that called him out was . . . Dennis Rodman. Rodman may not be the most sane and well-adjusted player on the court, but you could have alot more respect for him. He was a straight shooter, didn't care what anyone said (like Allen Iverson), and played hard every night. They weren't nice guys by any stretch of the imagination, but both players were loyal and honest. No facades with Rodman or Iverson.


    Dwight, cannot say the same thing.
     

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