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[NEWS] US Government shuts down 3D gun manufacturer
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Svpernaut is offline Old 05-10-2013, 01:37 PM   #21
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They can, and have been able to for years.

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Oh, and CALLED IT!

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Genie's already out of the bottle with the sheer number already out there. A tax now only makes the black market more competitive, though a similar outcome would happen with an outright ban.
I'm not talking about a tax on the design, I'm talking about a tax on the raw materials, or at least the optimum materials (admittedly, I have no idea of the overlap this would have with common industrial application on said materials).

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He's not a manufacturer, he's a designer, a creator of intellectual property which he has released onto the internet for free.

With 3D printing everyone is their own manufacturer, and there's no way to shut that down.
Actually, he is a manufacturer.
 
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What happens when you can successfully print currency on one of these things?
 
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What happens when you can successfully print currency on one of these things?
Probably all be using bit coins by then anyway dog.

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I'm not talking about a tax on the design, I'm talking about a tax on the raw materials, or at least the optimum materials (admittedly, I have no idea of the overlap this would have with common industrial application on said materials).
Not possible to tax the raw materials, because they have millions of legit uses... This is one place the NRA, the EFF and the ACLU would all fight on the same side.

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Probably all be using bit coins by then anyway dog.
Or, for the larger denominations, some kind of paper currency with two-dimensional imagery.

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Probably all be using bit coins by then anyway dog.
interesting, hadn't thought of that as an argument in favor of bitcoins

3D printing with metal is a considerable challenge (power requirements to melt metal for one).
 
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interesting, hadn't thought of that as an argument in favor of bitcoins

3D printing with metal is a considerable challenge (power requirements to melt metal for one).
Yeah items that require intricate circuitry and metal will be safe for quite awhile. The sex toy industry is screwed though.
 
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Not possible to tax the raw materials, because they have millions of legit uses... This is one place the NRA, the EFF and the ACLU would all fight on the same side.
A tax on residential metal melters, if those even exist, and a tax on bullets, would do the trick no? I mean, you can print all the 3D guns you want, but if you charge a lot for the bullets...

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A tax on residential metal melters, if those even exist, and a tax on bullets, would do the trick no? I mean, you can print all the 3D guns you want, but if you charge a lot for the bullets...

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Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
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Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
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Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
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Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
-Ronald Reagan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pigou_Club

*replace if it moves with if it harms people outside of the market transaction excessively---a negative externality.

*replace government with Nobel-prize winning policy experts, academics, bankers, pundits, and government officials.

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great CSPAN interview that gives an overview of this isssue, with callers who are in law enforcement and gun owners

 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Byjnhn-nZ_Q

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