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Bima is slacking. it's been almost an hour since the trade and this still hasn't been updated for the new guys.
Hahahaha! I'm working on it!!! Had to put my kid to bed. (And yes, he already knows how to say "James Harden" and "Fear the Beard").

"Rough" update coming in a minute.

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Bima,ought to tell the kids how to speak aldrich and asik too :P
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2013 first round draft pick from Dallas
Dallas' own 2013 first round draft pick to Houston via the L.A. Lakers ( top 20 protected in 2013, top 20 protected in 2014, top 20 protected in 2015, top 20 protected in 2016, top 20 protected in 2017 and unprotected in the 2018 Draft). [Dallas - L.A. Lakers, 12/11/2011 and then Houston-L.A. Lakers 3/15/2012]

2013 first round draft pick from Toronto
Toronto's own 2013 1st round pick to Houston (Top-3 Protected and 15-30 Protected in the 2013 Draft, top-2 protected and 15-30 protected in 2014, top-2 protected and 15-30 protected in 2015, top-1 Protected and 15-30 protected in 2016, top-1 protected and 15-30 Protected in 2017 and unprotected in the 2018 Draft. [Houston-Toronto, 7/11/2012]

2013 second round draft pick from Charlotte
Charlotte's own 2013 2nd round pick to Houston via Oklahoma City and Boston. [Charlotte - Oklahoma City, 12/19/2011 and then Boston-Oklahoma City, 6/26/2012 and then Boston-Houston-Portland, 7/20/2012]
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2014 second round draft pick from New York
New York's own 2014 2nd round pick to Houston. [Houston-New York, 7/11/2012]

2015 second round draft pick from L.A. Clippers
The L.A. Clippers' own 2015 2nd round pick to Houston via Toronto (if pick is 51 - 55). If the L.A. Clippers' own 2015 2nd round pick is not among the 51st through 55th picks, then the L.A. Clippers' obligations to Houston shall be extinguished. [L.A. Clippers - Toronto, 1/7/2009 and then Houston - Toronto, 7/28/2010]

2015 second round draft pick from New York
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***UPDATE***

Right now, the Rockets have 20 players under contract, with approximately $5.3 million in available cap room. (This trade actually created a bit of extra cap room for this season, since Harden is still on his rookie deal and the 4 guys we got together only made about as much as Martin alone.)

The Rockets now have to make decisions on whether to exercise team options on FIVE players between now and Wednesday: Aldrich (4th yr - $3.25M), Patterson (4th yr - $3.1M), Morris (3rd yr - $1.99M), Hayward (4th yr - $2.12M) and Johnson (3rd yr - $1.14M). Those decisions could greatly affect the team's available cap space next summer. (My guess is that they exercise the options on Aldrich, Patterson and Morris, but not on Hayward or Johnson.)

Assuming that the cap stays the same ($58.044 million) and that Harden gets the max salary next season based on that cap figure ($13,668,750), then the Rockets will be in a position to add another free agent making almost that much. If Aldrich, Patterson and Morris stay on the books and Hayward and Johnson come off (see prediction above), and if all non-guaranteed salary (Delfino, Smith, Machado) is dumped, the Rockets with this roster could have as much as about $12.7 million in available cap room without having to make any further trades.

Bottom line: The Rockets can give Harden the max AND still fit another max salary player fairly easily with a few minor trades.

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***UPDATE***

Right now, the Rockets have 20 players under contract, with approximately $5.3 million in available cap room. (This trade actually created a bit of extra cap room for this season, since Harden is still on his rookie deal and the 4 guys we got together only made about as much as Martin alone.)

The Rockets now have to make decisions on whether to exercise team options on FIVE players between now and Wednesday: Aldrich (4th yr - $3.25M), Patterson (4th yr - $3.1M), Morris (3rd yr - $1.99M), Hayward (4th yr - $2.12M) and Johnson (3rd yr - $1.14M). Those decisions could greatly affect the team's available cap space next summer. (My guess is that they exercise the options on Aldrich, Patterson and Morris, but not on Hayward or Johnson.)

Assuming that the cap stays the same ($58.044 million) and that Harden gets the max salary next season based on that cap figure ($13,668,750), then the Rockets will be in a position to add another free agent making almost that much. If Aldrich, Patterson and Morris stay on the books and Hayward and Johnson come off (see prediction above), and if all non-guaranteed salary (Delfino, Smith, Machado) is dumped, the Rockets with this roster could have as much as about $12.7 million in available cap room without having to make any further trades.

Bottom line: The Rockets can give Harden the max AND still fit another max salary player fairly easily with a few minor trades.
I thought we could have more. I was thinking like 15 million. We can dump Douglas's 3 million contract too. Not sure if you put that into consideration
 
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My guess is they might not pick up Aldrich's option, so they'd have real max room.

Also, who is the next trade/FA target?

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I thought we could have more. I was thinking like 15 million. We can dump Douglas's 3 million contract too. Not sure if you put that into consideration
Douglas comes off books next summer. Calculation doesn't factor him in at all.

Remember, team is adding Aldrich's salary ($3.25M), too.

You also have to factor in cap holds ($490,180) for each player below 12 left on the roster before you can use cap room.

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My guess is they might not pick up Aldrich's option, so they'd have real max room.

Also, who is the next trade/FA target?
I'm hoping someone like LaMarcus Aldridge. Would be a perfect fit alongside Lin, Harden, Parsons, and Asik.
 
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We have DMo and Smith. Aldrich should be dumped. We are all for building the team fundamentally next summer and take it to championship level. Go for big FAs.
 
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I'm hoping someone like LaMarcus Aldridge. Would be a perfect fit alongside Lin, Harden, Parsons, and Asik.
I doubt Aldridge leaves Portland. Also, his heart issues scare me. But if Morey worked some magic and managed to land him, you wouldn't see me complain.
 
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The Rockets now have to make decisions on whether to exercise team options on FIVE players between now and Wednesday: Aldrich (4th yr - $3.25M), Patterson (4th yr - $3.1M), Morris (3rd yr - $1.99M), Hayward (4th yr - $2.12M) and Johnson (3rd yr - $1.14M). Those decisions could greatly affect the team's available cap space next summer. (My guess is that they exercise the options on Aldrich, Patterson and Morris, but not on Hayward or Johnson.)[/B]
I'm curious why you think they'd pick up Morris' option.
 
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I'm curious why you think they'd pick up Morris' option.
The team still really likes Morris. He just had a bad year in a lockout-shortened season with no offseason program and limited training camp and practice time.

The coaching staff really liked what they saw in Morris before his ankle injury. I think if he continues to improve this season as a 3/4, then he can take Delfino's spot in the rotation next season.

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Is this true Bima?

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Hearing a lot about Lin, Asik contracts. Keep in mind, Rockets still have room for another max FA next summer, even after Harden gets max.

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Hearing a lot about Lin, Asik contracts. Keep in mind, Rockets still have room for another max FA next summer, even after Harden gets max.
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Hearing a lot about Lin, Asik contracts. Keep in mind, Rockets still have room for another max FA next summer, even after Harden gets max.

That's pretty much what Bima said.
 
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My guess is they might not pick up Aldrich's option, so they'd have real max room.

Also, who is the next trade/FA target?
Agree. Smith is much cheaper and has more upside. Cap room is too important to waste on average players. We are still not contender this season, so we gotta plan long term.
 
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i'm interested on bima's take on aldrich and cook being included........u think morey asked for them or rather, presti tried to dump them? cook seems a decent player and dead-eye shooter, but this is the 2nd time a team's given up on him, rite?

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My mistake, saw you were taking questions in the other thread and rushed here without reading.

Certainly good news!

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My guess is they might not pick up Aldrich's option, so they'd have real max room.

Also, who is the next trade/FA target?
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Agree. Smith is much cheaper and has more upside. Cap room is too important to waste on average players. We are still not contender this season, so we gotta plan long term.
Could be. It would certainly make signing a max guy easier without making any other trades. But if the team believes that Aldrich will be a high-quality young center, those are worth a heck of a lot more than $3.25M on the open market. They could always trade him for a future pick if they had to.

Again, it's just a guess on my part. Could go either way.

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