2012 Presidential Election: Romney vs. Obama

[B-Bob]

Originally Posted by DonnyMost What do you think drives economies if not scientific research and the technological innovations it brings about, Einstein?

He probably thinks that newly bundled financial products and 19th-century drilling technology would do just fine. *snicker*.

Enjoy that handsome buggy and your fine brass lantern, chap -- I do say!

But seriously, I cannot recall an era when scientists made such a strong political stand. It used to be pretty uniform that both parties supported scientific research. Oh well. When you want to go back to pre-Enlightenment times, your platform has to spurn Galileo and everything that came after him, I guess.

It's actually interesting that, of the many Romney mysteries, his change on science has been incredibly dramatic. He believed in climate change while governor, and Mormons in general are incredibly pro-science and pro-technology (in my direct experience, and in everything I've read about the faith.)

[Invisible Fan]

Because being mediocre and ignorant is what Republicans call "exceptionalism".

Their long standing know-nothing stances against science is an incredibly destructive and moronic ploy for our sustained national well being.

We live in the 21st century, yet we're still dealing with 19th century social attitudes and political undercurrents.

wtf

[GladiatoRowdy]

Originally Posted by bigtexxx B-Bob's posts are representative of the liberal base -- egghead professors who care more about buying bunsen burners for their labs than actually creating jobs in America. Simply out of touch.

Egghead professors, their teaching assistants, the staff who support them, and all the other people who work in education have... wait for it... JOBS.

You may not like those people, but claiming that those are not "jobs in America" is simply a lie.

[B-Bob]

Let's see, students from the science programs in my small university have gone on to: start enormously profitable tech companies with hundreds of employees, create venture capital firms (gasp! Yes, with a computer science degree, of all things!), fill out the ranks of medical doctors by the hundreds, etc, etc, etc. It's really stunning. (Almost as stunning as saying someone with a tech background working in the SF Bay Area doesn't know anything about job creation, lulz.)

Kind of proud of that.

Many of these students, by the way, started on federal Pell Grants, which the Romney/Ryan budget calls to cut drastically.

The lamestream so-called-"librul" media isn't carrying the Nobel Prize winners letter to any extent at all. And in other forums, conservatives are intentionally confusing the peace prize and the science prize, predictably.

Do Americans really care more about what some small editorial staff at the Houston Chronicle thinks versus 68 individuals who have pushed forward the frontiers of science over the last 80 years? I guess so.

Of the signers: Houston and Rice University's own, Robert Curl. He was born in Alice, TX, in 1933, and he was a true pioneer in nanotechnology. He was my chem. prof at Rice, and he's about as political as your average boot. Here's his short autobio; pretty interesting local flavor, folks.

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_priz...l-autobio.html

[mc mark]

Well here's an interesting story this morning.

McCain Voters Defecting To Obama Are Older White Males

Oct 19 (Reuters) - In today's highly polarized political environment it is somewhat surprising to find voters who backed John McCain in 2008 and now support President Barack Obama, but they exist.

Roughly 5 percent of respondents in Reuters/Ipsos polls said they chose the Republican contender in 2008 and will switch to Obama in 2012. This number peaked at around 9 percent two separate times over the summer, according to data collected since January.

[LonghornFan]

Read the comments in the Yahoo article. It reads like a bunch of mental midgets voicing their "opinions" and it's really embarrassing, kind of like this forum. Now we'll wait for Yahoo to do an article on those who have switched from Obama to Romney.

Ooops, no they won't. Yahoo news is incredibly biased and they have some of the most ignorant and clueless writers on the web.

[Major]

Originally Posted by LonghornFan Read the comments in the Yahoo article. It reads like a bunch of mental midgets voicing their "opinions" and it's really embarrassing, kind of like this forum. Now we'll wait for Yahoo to do an article on those who have switched from Obama to Romney. Ooops, no they won't. Yahoo news is incredibly biased and they have some of the most ignorant and clueless writers on the web.

A bit of an odd and random rant for an article that's posted on HuffPost and originates from Reuters and has nothing at all to do with Yahoo.

[LonghornFan]

Yeah, I didn't read it and thought it was the article on Yahoo's front page yesterday. Need coffee.

Edit- It is the same article on Yahoo from yesterday. Gotta love this quote-

" Waltrip said he liked the Republican ticket in 2008 because McCain is a veteran and because Sarah Palin "made me laugh."

Awesome. lol

[bigtexxx]

Originally Posted by B-Bob Let's see, students from the science programs in my small university have gone on to: start enormously profitable tech companies with hundreds of employees, create venture capital firms (gasp! Yes, with a computer science degree, of all things!), fill out the ranks of medical doctors by the hundreds, etc, etc, etc. It's really stunning. (Almost as stunning as saying someone with a tech background working in the SF Bay Area doesn't know anything about job creation, lulz.) Kind of proud of that. Many of these students, by the way, started on federal Pell Grants, which the Romney/Ryan budget calls to cut drastically. The lamestream so-called-"librul" media isn't carrying the Nobel Prize winners letter to any extent at all. And in other forums, conservatives are intentionally confusing the peace prize and the science prize, predictably. Do Americans really care more about what some small editorial staff at the Houston Chronicle thinks versus 68 individuals who have pushed forward the frontiers of science over the last 80 years? I guess so. Of the signers: Houston and Rice University's own, Robert Curl. He was born in Alice, TX, in 1933, and he was a true pioneer in nanotechnology. He was my chem. prof at Rice, and he's about as political as your average boot. Here's his short autobio; pretty interesting local flavor, folks. http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_priz...l-autobio.html

I sat through Professor Curl's classes at Rice, also. I respect him as a scientist. I don't care about his political opinions.

We need to get the economy working again, and practical solutions to do so. You arguing that professors know how to do that is simply out of touch and well, academic.

[peleincubus]

Originally Posted by bigtexxx I sat through Professor Curl's classes at Rice, also. I respect him as a scientist. I don't care about his political opinions. We need to get the economy working again, and practical solutions to do so. You arguing that professors know how to do that is simply out of touch and well, academic.

i agree teachers at all levels just plain suck

[CCorn]

Originally Posted by bigtexxx We need to get the economy working again, and practical solutions to do so. You arguing that professors know how to do that is simply out of touch and well, academic.

I agree. Investing in education is a waste. We need to invest in more practical solutions, like rounding up all the Jew gold.

I feel confident when Romney releases his recovery plan, this will be part of it.

[basso]

Originally Posted by mc mark Well here's an interesting story this morning. McCain Voters Defecting To Obama Are Older White Males Oct 19 (Reuters) - In today's highly polarized political environment it is somewhat surprising to find voters who backed John McCain in 2008 and now support President Barack Obama, but they exist. Roughly 5 percent of respondents in Reuters/Ipsos polls said they chose the Republican contender in 2008 and will switch to Obama in 2012. This number peaked at around 9 percent two separate times over the summer, according to data collected since January.

i thought older white males were rayciss?

fowad.

[Dubious]

Originally Posted by bigtexxx We need to get the economy working again, and practical solutions to do so. You arguing that professors know how to do that is simply out of touch and well, academic.

I still waiting on 'practical solutions' from the GOP.

The economic problems are

1. Wall Street fell in love with easy money, manipulating paper instead of investing in practical work, Dotcoms, junk bonds, CMO's and credit swaps, off-shoring , tax manipulation and exploiting de-regulation.

2. Globalization, electronic communications and containerized shipping making the location of manufacturing irrelevant so that American workers have to compete directly with slave wage workers. The truth is, other than artificial booms, the US workers wage has been stagnant since the stagflation of the 70's.

If you want to'lift all boats' I think you are going to need a massive investment in education, training and innovation in manufacturing that gives the advantage to (and a livable wage) back to American workers. It's a much larger undertaking and a more fundemental change than drilling on Public Land or building the XL pipeline.

[RocketMan Tex]

Originally Posted by basso i thought older white males were rayciss?

They are!

BTW, your motto is on the banner in the background.....

[BigMaloe]

[da_juice]

Rocketman Tex- can you please spoiler that picture?

[Dubious]

Just voted, line was 30 deep in West Houston

Sorry Jill, I couldn't do it.

[basso]

[thadeus]

My video is bigger than basso's. Therefore it is true.

[CrazyDave]

I love how they put ALERT on top of some generic talking point, as though it's the equivalent of an air raid or something.