Lance...how many of you knew he was guilty?

[KingCheetah]

Originally Posted by Jontro I still don't understand the entertainment value in watching someone else ride a bicycle.

I really think it's all about that one British commentator Phil Liggett -- he makes the most boring **** exciting.



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[713]

USAIN BOLT is next.

[jopatmc]

Originally Posted by 713 USAIN BOLT is next.

Ugh. The whole Jamacian team.

[AroundTheWorld]

Originally Posted by jopatmc Ugh. The whole Jamacian team.

This is sadly probably true. In contrast to Armstrong, Bolt seems like a really nice guy, but...

[Raven]

It's a dirty sport. I doubt one cyclist at that level is 100% clean, and Lance was targeted because he's American. Of that, I have no doubt. This doesn't mean Lance shouldn't be held accountable, but other pro cyclist have no right to look down on him. They aren't any better than he is. In other words, taking down Lance doesn't make the sport look better, it just makes it look more petty, vindictive, and backbiting.

[arno_ed]

Originally Posted by Raven It's a dirty sport. I doubt one cyclist at that level is 100% clean, and Lance was targeted because he's American. Of that, I have no doubt. This doesn't mean Lance shouldn't be held accountable, but other pro cyclist have no right to look down on him. They aren't any better than he is. In other words, taking down Lance doesn't make the sport look better, it just makes it look more petty, vindictive, and backbiting.

Eh you trully believe that? It can't be he was targeted because he won 7 straight TDF? Some people really see conspiracies everywere.

Of course this doesn't make the game look better. The Rabobank, the sponsor of one of the dutch teams has announced that they will stop sponsering cycling.

But this doesn't make it look petty. Armstrong has been cheating for years and won a lot as a result of that. ofcourse people should want to take him down. I cannot believe some people actually make excuses for the guy. If you are the best cheater among cheaters you are still a cheater and should punished accordinly. Armsting made a lot of dollars cheating with a sport, he should be in jail as a result of that.

[Yung-T]

Should've made this public, who voted for innocent?

[Air Langhi]

Originally Posted by arno_ed Armstrong has been cheating for years and won a lot as a result of that. ofcourse people should want to take him down. I cannot believe some people actually make excuses for the guy. If you are the best cheater among cheaters you are still a cheater and should punished accordinly. Armsting made a lot of dollars cheating with a sport, he should be in jail as a result of that.

He did not win cause he cheated. He won because he was that good. Everyone else cheated too why couldn't they beat him?Plus all the other dudes actually failed a drug test. He won and was never caught. You have to give him credit for that.

[AroundTheWorld]

Originally Posted by Air Langhi He did not win cause he cheated. He won because he was that good. Everyone else cheated too why couldn't they beat him?Plus all the other dudes actually failed a drug test. He won and was never caught. You have to give him credit for that.

He won because he cheated. Period.

Not only that, he also intimidated others into cheating as well, and intimidated and threatened people when they tried to come clean.

He is a criminal and lifelong cheater. Nothing else.

He cheated before he had cancer already. Then he used his unfortunate cancer fate as a shield against any allegation and was instrumental in building the most ruthless doping and cheating system ever in the history of sports.

[arno_ed]

Originally Posted by Air Langhi He did not win cause he cheated. He won because he was that good. Everyone else cheated too why couldn't they beat him?Plus all the other dudes actually failed a drug test. He won and was never caught. You have to give him credit for that.

We do not know if he was that good and the doping helped him or that he was that good as a result of very good doping. There are many different ways to dope.

I do not have to give him credit for not getting caught. He cheated and made a lot of money as a result of that. That is just pathetic. I do not have any respect for someone who is very good at cheating.

[BigBird]

unsurprisingly Lance Armstrong Is Stripped of His 7 Tour de France Titles

The International Cycling Union announced on Monday that it will not appeal the United States Anti-Doping Agency’s ruling to bar Lance Armstrong for life from Olympic sports for doping and for playing an instrumental role in the team-wide doping on his Tour de France-winning cycling squads. That decision to waive the right to take Armstrong’s case to the Court of Arbitration for Sport, the highest court in sports, formally strips Armstrong of the Tour titles he won from 1999-2005. The Amaury Sport Organization, the company that organizes the Tour de France, will erase Armstrong’s name from its record books. “We’ve come too far in the fight against doping to go back to the past,” Pat McQuaid, the president of the cycling union, said in a news conference Monday in Switzerland. “Something like this must never happen again.” He added that Armstrong, the sport’s biggest star for more than a decade, “has no place in cycling.” Christian Prudhomme, the race director of the Tour, has said the organization would not give the victories to the runners-up at the races Armstrong had won because so many of those riders have been linked to doping as well. He said those Tours simply would have no official winner. The World Anti-Doping Agency now has 21 days to decide whether it will appeal the ruling. If it does not, Armstrong’s hotly contested case is over. Armstrong, who vehemently denies ever doping, was charged in June with using banned performance-enhancing drugs and blood transfusions, and encouraging their use among his teammates to help him win races. He initially contested the charges, but backed down in August, saying he dropped out of the fight to spare his family and his foundation any stress or damage. Nearly two weeks ago, the antidoping agency publicly released the evidence it had on Armstrong, including nearly a dozen of his former teammates who said there was widespread, team-organized doping on Armstrong’s United States Postal Service and Discovery Channel cycling teams. Last week, Armstrong, a cancer survivor, stepped down as chairman of his Livestrong charity and lost nearly all of his endorsements. But in light of the cycling union’s decision not to appeal, more bad news might be on its way for Armstrong. The International Olympic Committee is reviewing his case and now will likely strip him of the bronze medal he won at the 2000 Sydney Olympics. SCA Promotions, a Dallas-based insurance company, will likely start the process of trying to recoup the bonus money it awarded Armstrong for winning Tour after Tour. Armstrong sued the company in 2005 to force it to pay him the bonus he was owed for winning the 2004 Tour. The company had withheld that bonus because of accusations in the book, L.A. Confidential, published only in French, said Armstrong had doped and cheated to win. The two parties reached a settlement, with the insurance company paying Armstrong $7.5 million.

[AroundTheWorld]

The UCI was complicit in this for the longest time. Only now that they have no other chance, they do this. Hopefully it is the start of a new era.

[superfob]

Did anyone report on how he was able to avoid positive tests while everyone else in the same cheating ring got caught? Seriously, I'm trying to figure out how he passed all the blood tests for so long. The only advantage he would have would be abnormalities due to his cancer and/or cancer treatments.

[Jontro]

Originally Posted by 713 USAIN BOLT is next.

What?? Is this true? I thought the Olympics have one of the more strict regulations and testing? He's such a great story, sad if this is true (and that I'm so blind). Et tu Bolt?

Originally Posted by Yung-T Should've made this public, who voted for innocent?

I voted for innocent and then lul'd.

[Surfguy]

So, you leave out the most obvious poll answer?

"I suspected he was cheating/beating the system but had no way of knowing for sure because nothing had been proven."

[durvasa]

If only he admitted it early on, he would have still have a lot of good will because of the charity work. I like to think a primary motivation for him was continuing to win so that he can rake in money for his charities, but it was probably just an ego thing.

[AroundTheWorld]

Originally Posted by superfob Did anyone report on how he was able to avoid positive tests while everyone else in the same cheating ring got caught? Seriously, I'm trying to figure out how he passed all the blood tests for so long. The only advantage he would have would be abnormalities due to his cancer and/or cancer treatments.

He also had accomplices within UCI.

[Air Langhi]

Christian Prudhomme, the race director of the Tour, has said the organization would not give the victories to the runners-up at the races Armstrong had won because so many of those riders have been linked to doping as well. He said those Tours simply would have no official winner.


He won those titles. If everyone was cheating it seems like fair playing field.

[fadeaway]

Originally Posted by AroundTheWorld Guilty as hell, from the start. Pathological liar. Ruthless mafia ringleader. Cheat. Arrogant prick.

I guess you won't be sending Mr. Lance any Christmas cards this year.

[TheRealist137]

Originally Posted by Air Langhi Christian Prudhomme, the race director of the Tour, has said the organization would not give the victories to the runners-up at the races Armstrong had won because so many of those riders have been linked to doping as well. He said those Tours simply would have no official winner. He won those titles. If everyone was cheating it seems like fair playing field.

You could say that, but if it was true that even one person did not cheat out of all the competitors than Lance did not win it.

So you must prove that every single rider cheated, and that would be impossible, or is simply not true.