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RG3 is just FLAT OUT better

after Kendall Wright horrible 40 time... it was clear to me who was better between Luck and RG3.. but i kept quiet

People are making excuses for Luck saying that his O-Line is garbage, RG3 plays for a crap O-Line too.. he is just that good. Even at Baylor RG3's O-Line was garbage.

Meanwhile Andrew Luck played behind a brick-wall at Stanford with some really good offensive players. I know its early but you could make the case that Luck is being exposed without an offensive line.

People are claiming RG3 is hype... but if RG3 played like Luck and Luck played like RG3 this past week, these same people would be giving the same praise

Im willing to accept that Tony Romo had a better week 1 stat line on the road againist the champs. But for a rookie to play his first game in the DOME... and outduel Drew Brees( a guy who just set a record for passing yards a year earlier). It could have been a toss up
I wouldn't give Luck any more praise if he had a similar game. Those same people heaping praise on RGIII will probably say what I am about to if he comes out and has an awful game next week. RGIII had a good game no doubt, especially for his first NFL game on the road but it was just one game against a bottom tier defense. I'd like to see if he can keep this up against some of the league's better defensive units which he will get to face several times this season. He proved he can play in the league but can he sustain it? We shall see.

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Meanwhile Andrew Luck played behind a brick-wall at Stanford with some really good offensive players. I know its early but you could make the case that Luck is being exposed without an offensive line.
In what way is Luck being exposed? I believe he had the 3rd most passing yards ever for a QB in his first start. Sure, he threw a bunch of interceptions, but that's not surprising for a rookie.
 
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Some of you guys that love RG3 should understand denigrating Andrew Luck doesn't help RG3. They aren't in competition with each other.

I'm rooting for both. One game doesn't make a season or career. Before the season is over, I believe the Colts and Redskins will be happy with their QBs.

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I only take it far because Kobe is so overrated. He has never positively impacted his team despite winning tons of press and accolades.
 
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In what way is Luck being exposed? I believe he had the 3rd most passing yards ever for a QB in his first start. Sure, he threw a bunch of interceptions, but that's not surprising for a rookie.


Those yards dont mean much, because the Bears were playing prevent
 
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Some of you guys that love RG3 should understand denigrating Andrew Luck doesn't help RG3. They aren't in competition with each other.

I'm rooting for both. One game doesn't make a season or career. Before the season is over, I believe the Colts and Redskins will be happy with their QBs.

I dont hate Andrew Luck.. i dont just dont agree he is a Peyton Manning type of prospect like everybody is saying he will be

I dont see it
 
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I dont hate Andrew Luck.. i dont just dont agree he is a Peyton Manning type of prospect like everybody is saying he will be

I dont see it
Peyton Manning had 3 INTs in his first game also. What was your impression afte Peyton's first game in the NFL?
 
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Those yards dont mean much, because the Bears were playing prevent
Lots of teams were playing a prevent defense against rookie starters all throughout history, given that those rookie starters were generally getting blown out. Yet, he still threw for more yards than all but two of them.
 
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I dont hate Andrew Luck.. i dont just dont agree he is a Peyton Manning type of prospect like everybody is saying he will be

I dont see it
If you don't see the similarity between Luck and Peyton Manning, you are blind or in denial. I'm NOT saying he will be as good as Manning (this is very doubtful), but the similarities are there.

After watching Luck play 6-7 games last season, I began to believe he was being overhyped. By the end of the year, I concluded RG3 and Matt Barkley had higher upsides in the NFL than Luck. But the story is just beginning and things have to play out.

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I only take it far because Kobe is so overrated. He has never positively impacted his team despite winning tons of press and accolades.
 
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If you don't see the similarity between Luck and Peyton Manning, you are blind or in denial. I'm NOT saying he will be as good as Manning (this is very doubtful), but the similarities are there.

After watching Luck play 6-7 games last season, I began to believe he was being overhyped. By the end of the year, I concluded RG3 and Matt Barkley had higher upsides in the NFL than Luck. But the story is just beginning and things have to play out.

Luck reminds me of Alex Smith, and im just being honest

His upside is a bigger more mobile Eli Manning, not Peyton
 
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Luck reminds me of Alex Smith, and im just being honest

His upside is a bigger more mobile Eli Manning, not Peyton
Ok, I'll just stop.
 
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lol at the haters' excuses- good LUCK hahaha. Meanwhile he &the rest of the NFL can start preparing their buttholes for at least the next decade or so, because despite all your excuse making RG3 is the real deal & is here to stay. Never before have we seen a qb with anything CLOSE to his combination of refined talent, all the intangibles, superior intelligence, maturity, leadership, & yes athleticism. Though understand he's not even going to beat you with athleticism 9/10, but like it or not he is going checkmate your defensive coordinator with film study, preparation, & quick thinking out there. Oh yeah, but if you really beg him to yes I hear he's pretty fast too.

You're looking at the next greatest ever right here boys. No one's ever come into the league & done what he has already in one game, and the best part is he's only going to be getting better (as he continues to learn at an increasingly accelerated rate)!

This is going to be one HELL of a season for Robert G. "The GOAT" 3!!
 
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lol at the haters' excuses- good LUCK hahaha. Meanwhile he &the rest of the NFL can start preparing their buttholes for at least the next decade or so, because despite all your excuse making RG3 is the real deal & is here to stay. Never before have we seen a qb with anything CLOSE to his combination of refined talent, all the intangibles, superior intelligence, maturity, leadership, & yes athleticism. Though understand he's not even going to beat you with athleticism 9/10, but like it or not he is going checkmate your defensive coordinator with film study, preparation, & quick thinking out there. Oh yeah, but if you really beg him to yes I hear he's pretty fast too.

You're looking at the next greatest ever right here boys. No one's ever come into the league & done what he has already in one game, and the best part is he's only going to be getting better (as he continues to learn at an increasingly accelerated rate)!

This is going to be one HELL of a season for Robert G. "The GOAT" 3!!
Cam Newton doesn't qualify as "anything CLOSE" and his first game last season (with no off-season program) doesn't rank close or equal to RG3's opening game? Should I also mention Newton's coach last year was also a "rookie"?

What will you say when RG3 bumbles and stumbles later on this season. No hot-starting rookie QB "only gets better". I guess you haven't watched the NFL for very long.

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Ok, I'll just stop.
LOL!

I stopped after the offensive line comment.

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Peyton Manning had 3 INTs in his first game also. What was your impression afte Peyton's first game in the NFL?

I don't hate Luck. I think he's could and probably will be a great quarterback. However, I've yet to see him do anything special like I saw Peyton, Eli, and even Brady do in college. He never made a throw in college that made something out of nothing. He also doesn't have very good touch on his long throws because I saw a lot of instances where his receivers have to slow down or come back for the ball.

What made him the top prospect is that no one could say anything negative about him. He's big, strong, accurate, fairly mobile, and doesn't make bad decisions.

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RGIII looks like Colt McCoy on steroids. Bigger, faster, stronger arm, and smarter. I'm totally on the band wagon.
only if those steroids also increased his mental ability as well.

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What made him the top prospect is that no one could say anything negative about him. He's big, strong, accurate, fairly mobile, and doesn't make bad decisions.
Seriously, did you even watch the game v. the Bears on Sunday? Don't look at the numbers. Watch it.

Outside of the 1st quarter, he literally drove against the Bears defense at will for the most part. One of his INT was a tipped ball in the end zone (bad luck). And his kicker missed a huge FG late in the 2nd that would have made in a single possession game going into halftime. Huge sequence on the road for a very young team. The last INT doesn't count b/c the game was out of reach and he was just forcing things late in the 4th. He also missed some receivers b/c his O-line was so poor. But the guy was never rattled. And like I said, he kept his offense moving vs a potential top 5 Bears defense (when healthy). And this is a guy playing for a ROOKIE coach, and ONE good offensive player alongside with him (Wayne), with no O-line, and no defense (after Freeney went out).

I'm sure if you had him face the Saints last Sunday, his numbers would be a teeny bit better I would bet.

One game doesn't make a player. It's the consistent performances (whether bad/good) that makes a player.
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only if those steroids also increased his mental ability as well.
Are you referring to RGIII?

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Are you referring to RGIII?
no. Colt's. Even if Colt was on steroids (bigger, faster, stronger) he wouldnt have near the football IQ/reading defense ability RG3 has.

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no. Colt's. Even if Colt was on steroids (bigger, faster, stronger) he wouldnt have near the football IQ/reading defense ability RG3 has.
I guess I need some too.

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