Islamists extending their control in Mali

[AroundTheWorld]

Originally Posted by Sweet Lou 4 2 The only cancer on this board is you my friend. Perpetuating stereotyping and hate for a billion people. I am surprised that you can do this on a board made possible by a Muslim, the great Hakeem The Dream. I wonder what he'd think if he read some of your posts. He'd probably puke.

Blah blah blah. Kid, nobody here takes you seriously. Nobody.

[Mathloom]

Al-Qaida-linked Islamists in Mali threaten French citizens after UN move "The population is suffering," he said, adding that he had received testimony that forced marriage, forced prostitution and rape are widespread and that women are being sold as "wives" for less than $1,000 in northern Mali. Separately, Simonovic said: "It is frightening to hear that lists are being compiled of women who are either pregnant or have children and are not married. We don't know what will happen to them." AQIM had abolished taxes in the north and were using extortion, ransom payments and funds from drug transshipping to establish their rule, he said. Children are being recruited to build bombs and to serve as soldiers, with payments made to their families of $600 on enlistment and $400 a month afterward, in a territory in which half the population live son less than $1.25 a day, Simonovic said. ....... Islamists in Mali threatened Saturday to "open the doors of hell" for French citizens, in a statement following the adoption by the UN Security Council of a plan to oust al-Qaida linked militants from occupied territory. The UN resolution, proposed by France and approved Friday, expressed alarm over the infiltration by "al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), affiliated groups and other extremist groups," and condemned "the abuses of human rights committed in the north of Mali by armed rebels, terrorist and other extremist groups". The Islamists' renewed threats against French hostages held in the country and expatriates comes ahead of a summit of French-speaking nations in Congo, where President François Hollande is expected to urge the rapid deployment of an African-led force to rout the Islamists. "If he continues to throw oil on the fire, we will send him the pictures of dead French hostages in the coming days," said Oumar Ould Hamaha, a spokesman for Islamist group MUJWA, in an apparent reference to four French nationals who were seized in neighboring northern Niger in 2010. "He will not be able to count the bodies of French expatriates across West Africa and elsewhere." ... He emphasized France's willingness to provide material and training, but said: "There will be no [French] troops on the ground."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...?newsfeed=true

MUJWA's Hamaha said that the armed groups in the Sahara desert were largely funded by ransom payments from France and others. "The top country who finances the jihadis is France," he said, adding that MUJWA could try to kidnap Hollande himself. "I wonder what the international community would say if we took the French president hostage." "Should we tone down our message on the integrity of Mali, on the fight against terrorism, because of these threats? I think it's quite the opposite."

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa...433674676.html

[Hydhypedplaya]

Originally Posted by AroundTheWorld Blah blah blah. Kid, nobody here takes you seriously. Nobody.

Do you honestly believe anyone takes you seriously?

Or are you really that delusional?

[Mathloom]

Originally Posted by Hydhypedplaya Do you honestly believe anyone takes you seriously? Or are you really that delusional?

Not sure if you realize that's an old post.

[JD88]

Originally Posted by RedRedemption This thread is an example of why I hate religion. Religion X sucks, Religion Y is better. Religion Y sucks, Religion Z is better. Religion Z sucks, Religion X is better. At the end of the day religion is a crowd control device used to justify the impossible to a flock of mindless sheep.

Yup. Keep a population uneducated, feed them ideas of great reward, or severe punishment, have them do your will.

Been that way in the ME for centuries. Its not just them that have used religion as a means for war, Christians, Catholics, every religion has done the same thing.

There would always be war over territory, resources, etc., but religion is a cancer.

[Mathloom]

Originally Posted by JD88 Keep a population uneducated, feed them ideas of great reward, or severe punishment, have them do your will.

Isn't this word for word US foreign policy in the ME?

It's not about religion. It's about ideology. Any ideology. Any power seekers will try to use ideology whether political, religious, or otherwise to exert power over other humans. This is because the power is illegitimate, so in order to destroy the ability of humans to use proof/evidence and get them to comply, the power seekers need a tool which places the answer to a problem before the evidence/proof. Without this, power can not reign. We thought getting rid of religion would change this. We were wrong. Statism is the new opium of the masses. These things develop. They're not static. They won't wait for religion to simply die out and then give up. Nationalism does this. Religion does this. Many ideologies do this. Your "Faith" in the ideology trumps everything else.

Also, Mali is not in the ME.

[glynch]

ATW, why don't you volunteer to fight Muslims in Mali-- if you are so concerned?

[AroundTheWorld]

Originally Posted by glynch ATW, why don't you volunteer to fight Muslims in Mali-- if you are so concerned?

I'm a lover, not a fighter.

[jocar]

Angry people using religion as a pretense. What's new