Magic Posturing About Keeping Dwight Howard Until Feb. 2013?

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by htown1984 Dwight is just saying that because he knows the Rockets can trade for hime now. If it was Dallas that could trade for him he would say i dont want to go to Dallas, if Dallas Trades for me ill walk to Houston and Sign.. Dont you see this all BS.. Posturing to go to LA or Brooklyn. At the end of the day he will be sent to Houston, Hakeem will have a couple of beers with him and he will decide to stay... end of story... cool Story

Dwight has been wanting to go to Dallas for quite sometime now.

His original list back in Dec 2011 was:

#1 - Brooklyn
#2 - Dallas
#3 - Los Angeles

[DonnyMost]

Originally Posted by htown1984 Dwight is just saying that because he knows the Rockets can trade for hime now. If it was Dallas that could trade for him he would say i dont want to go to Dallas, if Dallas Trades for me ill walk to Houston and Sign.. Dont you see this all BS.. Posturing to go to LA or Brooklyn. At the end of the day he will be sent to Houston, Hakeem will have a couple of beers with him and he will decide to stay... end of story... cool Story

That's how I see it playing out too.

That, or he spends 30 million bucks to bounce to NY/LA to form the next Super Friends circlejerk team and becomes the new mega evil butthole everybody loves to hate.

[RedDynasty]

Originally Posted by Rudy Dwight has been wanting to go to Dallas for quite sometime now. His original list back in Dec 2011 was: #1 - Brooklyn #2 - Dallas #3 - Los Angeles

Dallas was there simply because they could have gotten Deron Williams this summer, same with Brooklyn. Now that D-Will is out, his list could be different. We have never heard Dwight directly say anything. For all we know, he wants Houston. You never know.

[Morey=Money]

If we really go for Bynum in a 3-way my trade scenario would be as follows:

Houston sends to Orlando:
Martin
Patterson
Morris
NO picks
NO Rookies

Houston receives:
Bynum
Blake
Richardson

Orlando sends to LA:
Howard
Duhon

LA receives:
Howard
Duhon

LA sends to Orlando:
McRoberts

Orlando receives:
McRoberts expiring
Martin expiring
Patterson young talent
Morris young talent
& gets rid of 2 sour contracts

resulting Houston line up for 2013:

Lin/Blake/Douglas
Lamb/Richardson/Blake/Forbes
Parsons/Richardson/White/Forbes
Donuts/Jones/White/Johnson
Bynum/Asik/Donuts/Harrelson

Then keep one of these following players, Brockman, Williams, Smith, Simpson, Machado, Fortson, or Aldemir and send the rest to D-League, Trade for future considerations, or cut them.

There is no reason for us to trade too much for Bynum when they have to have us facilitating the 3-way trade. In my opinion Orlando has allowed Howard to totally screw them over.

[OremLK]

From an article today about DAL and Howard:

There has been a puzzling tendency around the NBA over the last 24 months to exaggerate the Mavericks’ cap space. It infected the discussion of Dallas’ grand plans to sign both Howard and point guard Deron Williams, even though the math most generous to the Mavs showed that they couldn’t have carved out nearly enough cap space this summer to actually pay max deals to both players. As things stand now — and things are always subject to change — the Mavs should be able to barely squeeze in a max deal to Howard, who will be eligible for a starting salary on his next contract of $20.5 million. But the math is tight, and the idea that the Mavs could chase a second potential star in free agency is currently fanciful. To wit: The Mavs, as of this moment, have $34.2 million in guaranteed money for the 2013-14 season committed to four players: Nowitzki, Shawn Marion, Vince Carter and first-round pick Jared Cunningham. There has been mass confusion about the status of Carter’s deal, but according to Deeks and other sources, $2 million of the veteran shooting guard’s $3.18 million deal for 2013-14 became guaranteed when the Mavs did not waive him on June 30; that amount has been factored into the $34.2 million figure above, as has the customary 120 percent rookie scale figure for Cunningham. But the rules — those rules again! — say the Mavs must account for eight empty roster spots, up to 12, by adding eight rookie minimum salary charges at $490,180 a pop. Toss those in, and you’re up to $38.1 million. Even assuming a very nice 5 percent bump up in the cap level from $58 million to $60 million, the Mavs would have about $21.9 million in cap space — just enough to fit Howard’s $20.5 million max salary, but not enough to upgrade the roster in any other meaningful way.

Yeah, Dallas presents a REAL attractive basketball situation for Dwight....

[OremLK]

Oh, forgot the link to the full article:
http://nba-point-forward.si.com/2012...emain-limited/

[Morey=Money]

[QUOTE=Morey=Money;7080013]If we really go for Bynum in a 3-way my trade scenario would be as follows:

Apologies I meant to put this in the Bynum thread. Oh well I guess it still somewhat pertains.

[Angkor Wat]

Originally Posted by Morey=Money If we really go for Bynum in a 3-way my trade scenario would be as follows: Houston sends to Orlando: Martin Patterson Morris NO picks NO Rookies Houston receives: Bynum Blake Richardson Orlando sends to LA: Howard Duhon LA receives: Howard Duhon LA sends to Orlando: McRoberts Orlando receives: McRoberts expiring Martin expiring Patterson young talent Morris young talent & gets rid of 2 sour contracts

LMAO. If im ORL and thats the best HOU will offer, im either keeping Howard untl Jan to ship him to BK or trade him straight up for Bynum. ORL gets absolutely NOTHING in return except salary dump. What good is all that money when you cant get guys to come play there? If im ORL, i want draft picks, not just salary dumps.

[Morey=Money]

Originally Posted by Angkor Wat LMAO. If im ORL and thats the best HOU will offer, im either keeping Howard untl Jan to ship him to BK or trade him straight up for Bynum. ORL gets absolutely NOTHING in return except salary dump. What good is all that money when you cant get guys to come play there? If im ORL, i want draft picks, not just salary dumps.

I say that is the best Houston should offer for Bynum, Dwight is a whole different situation.

[SWTsig]

Originally Posted by Morey=Money If we really go for Bynum in a 3-way my trade scenario would be as follows: Houston sends to Orlando: Martin Patterson Morris NO picks NO Rookies Houston receives: Bynum Blake Richardson Orlando sends to LA: Howard Duhon LA receives: Howard Duhon LA sends to Orlando: McRoberts Orlando receives: McRoberts expiring Martin expiring Patterson young talent Morris young talent & gets rid of 2 sour contracts resulting Houston line up for 2013: Lin/Blake/Douglas Lamb/Richardson/Blake/Forbes Parsons/Richardson/White/Forbes Donuts/Jones/White/Johnson Bynum/Asik/Donuts/Harrelson Then keep one of these following players, Brockman, Williams, Smith, Simpson, Machado, Fortson, or Aldemir and send the rest to D-League, Trade for future considerations, or cut them. There is no reason for us to trade too much for Bynum when they have to have us facilitating the 3-way trade. In my opinion Orlando has allowed Howard to totally screw them over.

no rookies and no picks, eh?

thank god you're not our GM.

[Rocketman95]

Originally Posted by DonnyMost Good thing I'm not a Magic fan. Let me know when he shows up for Rockets camp and opens up a big ol' can of quit.

So, we're not supposed to be butthurt that he doesn't want to come here, but his quitting on another team doesn't matter because it hasn't happened to us? That doesn't quite compute.

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by OremLK From an article today about DAL and Howard: Yeah, Dallas presents a REAL attractive basketball situation for Dwight....

Sorry but I have to play devil's advocate (someone has to do it).

Mavericks are pretty good where they stand. Projected 2013-2014 line up if Dwight goes to Dallas:

C - Dwight Howard
PF - Dirk Nowitzki
SF - Shawn Marion
SG - OJ Mayo
PG - Darren Collison

Bench:

C - Chris Kaman
PF - Elton Brand
SF - Vince Carter
SG - Rodrigue Beaubios
PG - Delonte West

Older, but that would still be a pretty good line up.

[Morey=Money]

Originally Posted by SWTsig no rookies and no picks, eh? thank god you're not our GM.

Let's be real here, none of us have the makings to be a bonified GM. So now that we are past that.

I am not an Orl fan and I want Hou to come out this smelling like a rose. Point is Hou has a bit of leverage in these negotiations. Are you telling me you would give up rookies and picks for Bynum and his bad knees?

[Carl Herrera]

Originally Posted by OremLK From an article today about DAL and Howard: Yeah, Dallas presents a REAL attractive basketball situation for Dwight....

This! Dallas is being thrown out there simply as leverage by Dwight's team since it is one name that's been out there before and currently has no way of trading for Dwight. No realistic way even for Cuban to get away from this math without trading Dirk.

Dwight could have gone to BKN already if he just played the season out on whatever team and signed the 4 yr deal with BKN. He did not. Not sure why we think he will walk away from extra year guarantee to sign with DAL now.

[TheresTheDagger]

Waiting on Hennigan and the Orlando front office is like waiting on the wifey when she makes you go clothes shopping with her.

Please Lord...let this be over soon......

[Angkor Wat]

Originally Posted by OremLK From an article today about DAL and Howard: Yeah, Dallas presents a REAL attractive basketball situation for Dwight....

umm didnt they just sign OJ Mayo? Why isnt he on the books for 13-14?

[OremLK]

Originally Posted by Rudy Sorry but I have to play devil's advocate (someone has to do it). Mavericks are pretty good where they stand. Projected 2013-2014 line up if Dwight goes to Dallas: C - Dwight Howard PF - Dirk Nowitzki SF - Shawn Marion SG - OJ Mayo PG - Darren Collison Bench: C - Chris Kaman PF - Elton Brand SF - Vince Carter SG - Rodrigue Beaubios PG - Delonte West Older, but that would still be a pretty good line up.

OJ Mayo, Darren Collison, and Shawn Marion, and a 36 year old Dirk your other starting 4? That'll beat OKC, LA, and the Heat for sure!

Come ON.

[jacoby]

Originally Posted by Morey=Money Let's be real here, none of us have the makings to be a bonified GM. So now that we are past that. I am not an Orl fan and I want Hou to come out this smelling like a rose. Point is Hou has a bit of leverage in these negotiations. Are you telling me you would give up rookies and picks for Bynum and his bad knees?

Dude, we can't walk away with a star Center like Andrew Bynum without giving up draft picks or young talent. Orlando will simply say "lol piss off Morey" and take Bynum for themselves or wait until Brooklyn is ready to trade again.

Patterson, Martin, Morris for Bynum. LOL. You're a funny guy.

[Rudy]

Originally Posted by Carl Herrera This! Dallas is being thrown out there simply as leverage by Dwight's team since it is one name that's been out there before and currently has no way of trading for Dwight. No realistic way even for Cuban to get away from this math without trading Dirk. Dwight could have gone to BKN already if he just played the season out on whatever team and signed the 4 yr deal with BKN. He did not. Not sure why we think he will walk away from extra year guarantee to sign with DAL now.

Again, Dallas IS NOT just being thrown out there.

Dwight has Dallas on his list since 2011, and even as recent as July 12th this month, even with Deron Williams signing back in Brooklyn.

July 12, 2012:

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/44530

The Dallas Mavericks, who have carefully maintained their cap space headed into 2013, remain on Dwight's s short-list, at least according to ESPN Insider Chad Ford:

"Dallas will have the room and (Dwight's) made it clear that's his second option after Brooklyn."

[Morey=Money]

Originally Posted by jacoby Dude, we can't walk away with a star Center like Andrew Bynum without giving up draft picks or young talent. Orlando will simply say "lol piss off Morey" and take Bynum for themselves or wait until Brooklyn is ready to trade again. Patterson, Martin, Morris for Bynum. LOL. You're a funny guy.

I try to be, but for whatever reason today fellow fans on here seem to be laughing at me instead of with me.