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Interesting stuff in here. NYK is unreal.

http://blog.shamsports.com/2012/07/w...ven-teams.html


2002/032003/042005/062006/072007/082008/092009/102010/112011/12TOTAL
Atlanta3,716,000       666,1994,382,199
Boston 1,594,066  8,218,3688,294,66414,928,6625,692,5867,365,86746,094,213
Brooklyn/New Jersey5,730,0009,390,383       15,120,383
Charlotte         0
Chicago         0
Cleveland    14,008,56113,707,01015,410,550  43,126,121
Dallas18,500,00025,031,93217,329,3247,204,96819,613,29523,611,66117,582,57418,917,8362,738,843150,530,433
Denver   2,022,41813,572,079 5,562,942  21,157,439
Detroit 756,627       756,627
Golden State         0
Houston       757,145 757,145
Indiana892,0003,323,0594,674,028      8,889,087
L.A. Clippers         0
L.A. Lakers9,749,0008,439,051  5,131,7577,185,63121,430,77819,923,77212,557,26484,417,253
Memphis7,554,000 3,743,452      11,297,452
Miami5,180,000   8,318,879 3,039,769 6,129,34022,667,988
Milwaukee4,734,000        4,734,000
Minnesota6,026,00017,633,006 998,536     24,657,542
New Orleans         0
New York24,371,00039,867,21437,248,75245,142,00219,723,94623,736,2075,199,024  195,288,145
Oklahoma City/Seattle         0
Orlando  7,757,500   11,046,59520,147,413 38,951,508
Philadelphia12,759,0005,098,635       17,857,635
Phoenix1,888,000   3,867,3134,918,1364,958,790  15,632,239
Portland51,971,00028,846,436   5,899,356 2,335,682 89,052,474
Sacramento17,377,00013,141,745       30,518,745
San Antonio187,000 889,895196,082  8,810,302 2,514,27512,597,554
Toronto2,681,0004,090,836       6,771,836
Utah      3,105,3724,998,247 8,103,619
Washington         0
           
Total173,315,000157,212,99071,642,95155,564,00692,454,19887,352,665111,075,35872,772,68131,971,788853,361,637
 
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Looks like Les Alexander is one of the cheapest owners in the league.

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Looks like Les Alexander is one of the cheapest owners in the league.
Chicago? No 1 regular season for 2 straight seasons but never paid the tax.

And LAC? Utah? OKC? SAS? All these teams having squads contending worthy at one time, yet paid next to none tax.

I believe Alexander will pay if we have a legit contending squad. I would call him smart spending rather than being cheap.

And lol at NY, all this money for one playoffs win in that span. At least Houston had one series.
 
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Not to mention Chicago is a top 3 market and one of the most profitable franchises. Rose has like the best selling jersey. It's amazing how little they spent.
 
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Thank you for this, now we can finally end the debate on Alexander being a great owner. He's average to good and calling him cheap is a legitimate argument, you only need these numbers to prove it.
 
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OMG, Les is cheap!

Look, Alexander may not be a big spender like Cuban, Dolan, Pau Allen or the Busses, but calling him cheap isn't appropriate IMO. Les just spends his money smartly.

There aren't a whole lot of owners as aggressive as him when it purchasing draft picks and signing guys at the end of the season to basically serve no other purpose than be on the roster as a trade filler for the off-season.
He just paid Scola a lot of money not to play basketball for him.

You must understand that being in the luxury tax just isn't a smart investment if you can avoid it. There obviously are cases in which you want your owner to pay the tax, but I can't recall the Rockets being in such situation over the last few years.
(The Thunder FWIW soon will be in that situation.)
 
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Thank you for this, now we can finally end the debate on Alexander being a great owner. He's average to good and calling him cheap is a legitimate argument, you only need these numbers to prove it.
How could this prove that Alexander is not a great owner? When is the last time he had a squad worthy to overspend? Please understand smart spending /= cheap. At least he's not as stupid as the Knicks owner.
 
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Not to mention Chicago is a top 3 market and one of the most profitable franchises. Rose has like the best selling jersey. It's amazing how little they spent.
Rose was on his rookie contract until this season and bulls sucked big time before Rose.

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Dallas operates like NY and gets praise. Cuban got lucky Chandler panned out.

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Gotta love Clutchfans. Spending 200 mil on luxury tax = terrible owner; not paying luxury tax = terrible owner.

We already knew who the big spenders were. The far more interesting part of the chart to me is how dramatically the total dipped this year. Maybe that's MOSTLY because of the amnesty, but also the new CBA has clearly changed the priorities at least a little.

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Dallas operates like NY and gets praise. Cuban got lucky Chandler panned out.
Dallas has actually been competitive though.

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What stuck out most to me was Portland's 02-03 team paid 51m in luxury tax. That was when they were at their downfall paying Pippen 19m for avg production at the tail end of his career. They still had Shawn Kemp on their payroll for 14m http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/POR/2003.html despite him not being on the roster. They were such a deep team when they still had Steve Smith though. Closest thing to the 04 Pistons team or vice versa rather.
 
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Dallas operates like NY and gets praise. Cuban got lucky Chandler panned out.
Dallas had 1 title, 2 Finals and multiple WCF appearances and top regular season records for several seasons. While NY won a grand total of 1 game and the best regular season finish was a 7th seed in the same span. It's easy to know how gets praise and who gets criticism. Lol.
 

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