Is going Vegan counterproductive for Arian?

[Buck Turgidson]

Originally Posted by Rasputin12 Doesn't cod liver oil defeat the point of being vegan? Think of the Cod!

Shouldn't eat cod.

http://www.nefsc.noaa.gov/sos/spsyn/pg/cod/

[Rasputin12]

Originally Posted by Buck Turgidson Shouldn't eat cod. http://www.nefsc.noaa.gov/sos/spsyn/pg/cod/

And where do you think cod liver oil comes from?

[Buck Turgidson]

Originally Posted by Rasputin12 And where do you think cod liver oil comes from?

God?

They're overfished, that's all I was saying.

[Deckard]

Originally Posted by Batman Jones (Can't believe I'm replying to a Ronny post.) Just wanted to echo the sentiment regarding staying indoors and not getting sunlight, especially for vegans, some of whom will not properly absorb the necessary Vitamin D through supplements. I am a night owl, I used to spend all my waking hours in theatre rehearsals, then in bars, then in speakeasies and I used to sleep all day. My circadian rhythms haven't much recovered so it's hard for me to get sunlight. I also have issues with depression that make the sun, especially the Houston sun, especially the Houston summer sun, difficult for me. It's an endurance test at my age (43) and at my very low level of energy, both resulting from vitamin deficiencies and more from depression, I rarely win the test. (I am aware, by the way, that the more I do it the more I'll have the energy for it and the less depressed I'll be. That awareness does make it more common for me to do it but it does not make it easier to do it.) I finally had my vitamin levels checked for the first time about four months ago. My D was severely deficient. I believe a normal level is like 30-110 units of [some unit of measurement whose name I can't remember] and anything under 20 is considered severely deficient. My level was a >4, which was the lowest of which my doctor had ever heard. He put me on about 1,000 or 1,500 units a week of prescription Vit D. I took either 500 or 750 twice a week. I did this for three months. My B-12 was a 270 and what's considered normal in the U.S. (but not elsewhere) is 200-1,100. So mine was very low by American standards but still fell within the normal range. It's notable that in other countries, as high as 500 is what's required to not be tagged deficient. By those standards a measurement of 270 is quite low. I had also learned that there were all sorts of issues with B-12 absorption and that the only fool-proof method of getting it (apart from animal products) was an intravenous shot. I had also been told this typically gives one a burst of energy and a commensurate lifting of depression. I found this to be the case and I told my doctor I'd like to do it regularly. He told me that was fine, that it couldn't harm me, and to let him know when I noticed a marked drop in energy and then we'd know how often I should take the shot. At two weeks I did so I went back then for another. I've had one more since then (about a month ago) and when I go back I'll get my own kit and start stabbing myself in the thigh with it, though that sounds rather unpleasant. I don't like needles. Not a big deal, I'll get over it right away, I just don't like them. For one thing, they are pointy objects that put holes in my skin and I don't like anything that does that. So I did the full regimen of prescription D and I did three boosts of B-12 intravenously and then I went and got my blood work done again. My doctor had told me that if we saw ANY improvement in the D he would be happy. He told me he knew the B-12 would go up a little at least. Got my tests back yesterday. I am happy to report that I measured a 55 in Vitamin D and a 421 in B-12. But if you're a vegan, and apparently if you're also a night-fly, you have to mind this stuff for sure. I'm lucky to be as physically healthy as I am since I've led a rather hedonistic life. Suffice to say that in addition to poking my thigh every two weeks I'll be spending more time in the sun. I have a dog and he makes it fun anyway. And I'm sure he likes playing in the day more than when we do it at night.

When I saw this thread, I immediately thought of you, knowing you are vegan, and hoped you'd see it and post some comments. You didn't disappoint. I still enjoy learning, and I'm more educated about the vegan diet than I was was a few minutes ago. And Ronny had a with a serious, informative post about the topic. Good stuff!

[Rasputin12]

Originally Posted by Deckard When I saw this thread, I immediately thought of you, knowing you are vegan, and hoped you'd see it and post some comments. You didn't disappoint. I still enjoy learning, and I'm more educated about the vegan diet than I was was a few minutes ago. And Ronny had a with a serious, informative post about the topic. Good stuff!

And now we know it is due to self-righteous vegans.

As a cod lover, I'm disgusted with their causation of a possible cod extinction just to suit their own selfish, parasitic needs.

[Rasputin12]

Originally Posted by Buck Turgidson God? They're overfished, that's all I was saying.

And now we know it is due to self-righteous vegans.

As a cod lover, I'm disgusted with their causation of a possible cod extinction just to suit their own selfish, parasitic needs.

[parmesh]

Originally Posted by SacTown He'll probably gain weight. Most vegans consume a ton of carbohydrates which put the weight on you. And it's usually not muscle.

WRONG

[Butterfingers]

My thoughts on Vegans...

[luisantonio1014]

red meat causes Cancer!!

nuff' said.... Shut It Down!!! watch Forks over Knives, for those interested.

Good job going Vegan, Arian Foster!

[RedRedemption]

Arian Foster.
Biggest hipster on the Texans?

[wakkoman]

Originally Posted by RedRedemption Arian Foster. Biggest hipster on the Texans?

Connor Barwin is the biggest hipster by far.

[TheRaven]

When Bill Walton first came to the NBA, he was a vegetarian. Carried a jug of carrot juice to the bench. He got hammered by most NBA centers till the TrailBlazers coaxed into incorporating a little meat into his diet. Went on to be a stud.
Not sure of all the nutritional components but it's going to affect him.
How much is anybody's guess.

[Batman Jones]

Originally Posted by Butterfingers My thoughts on Vegans...[/IMG]

Of course it is impossible to live on earth and not use animal products in some fashion, but it is not impossible to avoid putting their corpse flesh in your mouth, chewing it up, swallowing it, digesting it and sh***ing it out. The difference is that one is completely unavoidable as you pointed out and the other is not only unavoidable, it is just gross. As for dairy: mucus. Sick.

That's how I feel about it. For me. Everyone else can eat whatever they want. I don't care.

And it's been my experience that non-vegans are way more self-righteous toward vegans than the other way around. Your post is a case in point. I don't know why omnivores are so sensitive and defensive about my diet when I don't care about theirs but whatever.

[Major Malcontent]

There are judgmental vegans too. I know..I have been given their "Meat is Murder" pamphlets often (though it was more common some years back).

I don't care if my best friend, girlfriend, brother or anyone else is veggie, vegan, pescaterian or lacto-ovo whatever.

If you are toting the rock for my football team...I want you to eat whatever allows you to breakout for 200 plus all purpose yards per game. If that means milk fed veal raised in little crates or endangered species tortured and flown in from the rain forest so Arian can eat their corpse-flesh...I am down with that.

Hopefully Arian can eat what he wants and still perform at his peak...but I can't say I am thrilled with the idea of taking the chance.

[parmesh]

Lots of dumbassery going on in here. Wow!

[KingCheetah]

If you eat fish and chicken and/ or consume various oils from animals you are not a vegan or a vegetarian.

A friend of mine falls in this annoying category -- she's a vegetarian, but she 'occasionally' eats chicken and fish. One night we were out and she was in veg mode and would only eat f'ing onion rings because the menu didn't have veg options. I asked her if she understood how much more unhealthy those 'vegetarian' onion rings were than any of the meat on the menu (fajitas/ etc.) -- she didn't get it... at all.

I did get it later, but that is another story.

[Rasputin12]

Just proof that's needed in certain people's lives.

[fallenphoenix]

Originally Posted by RedRedemption Arian Foster. Biggest hipster on the Texans?