DMT - the spirit molecule

[BigMaloe]

Originally Posted by XxShadyPinkxX This, definitely. Still, a great experience if taken with the right mindset. As a friend of mine came to, all she said was, "words are nothing," then proceeded to paint this... I've also seen someone with the WRONG mindset try it, and that was ugly. She had pure terror in her eyes and thought she had lost it for good.

Fantastic artwork and intrigueing reflection of her vision...

[BigMaloe]

Originally Posted by TdashDUB I've also read that this dimension/world is the only place where true religion can be found. No offense to anyone who's religious, but it's all man-made in the sense that it's adaptations and (often times) misinterpreted in translation. In 2006, a study at John Hopkins took 36 adults, avg age of 46, who had never tried any psilocybin (the main ingredient in shrooms that causes hallucinations basically), didn't have a drug history and all who did have a strong a religious belief. They observed for 8 hour intervals in a lab. 1/3 of the participants stated that it was the single most spiritually significant moment in their lives. More than 2/3 reported it was top 5 most spiritually significant moments and two months following 79% of precipitants still reported increased well-being or satisfaction while a number of those people who had reported anxiety and/or depression had significantly dropped or completely ridded themselves of it all together. The Govt just doesn't want us expanding our mind. But that's a whole nother thread.

Havent heard about the whole onpy planet/dimension arguemeny you made, but i can totally believe it... thing is i feel like in other dimensions/planets there is still a need for manipulation of the masses and theres no better way than religion, especially to the mind of a younger child growing up who is very impressionable, easily manipulayed and believe what they are told... BUT like you said thats another thread entirely...

On a side note: i am in no way trying to attack anyones belief or religion, simply stating my perception of reality... everyones perception is different...

[Classic]

Originally Posted by txppratt my life is not unfulfilling and i find plenty of value in my life. this experience altered my perception, in a positive way, and has opened my mind to religious ideals in a way i couldn't have understood before. since the experience there are two things that keep coming back to me. 1 - the civilizations who have accepted this as part of their culture (ayahuasca, or whatever) draw dramatically different conclusions about the supernatural than typical judeo-christian beliefs. this, like mushrooms, can be an entirely spiritual experience. 2 - the visuals i experienced, seeing the same 3rd eye as what others have described/painted, has me wondering why i'm seeing the same things. why wasn't my experience unique? ...this is what has me thinking that this is a way to tap into another dimension thats around us all the time, but we just can't see it. at least thats what i'm thinking... i'm still pondering the experience and have yet to draw any sure-fire conclusions.

Haven't ever done this 'drug' but sounds like your perspective is leaving you open to explore other cultures and if so, I recommend this book. I recently picked it up and read about the first 100 pages or so on vacation. Plan to finish it out and it deals a lot with what you're describing.

[Hicklander]

How do you get this stuff?

[BigMaloe]

Originally Posted by Hicklander How do you get this stuff?

Incredibly hard to find/get... i jus so happened to know someone who made it and still only took it once... my advice is if you come across.by any chance try and score some for the experience alone... completely worth it...

[BigMaloe]

Originally Posted by Classic Haven't ever done this 'drug' but sounds like your perspective is leaving you open to explore other cultures and if so, I recommend this book. I recently picked it up and read about the first 100 pages or so on vacation. Plan to finish it out and it deals a lot with what you're describing.

What exactly does it pertain to? Is it teaching tibetan practices and beliefs?

[TdashDUB]

Originally Posted by BigMaloe I actually found out about law of attraction thru the dvd the secret... and being a skeptic at heart it seemed like a way to feed off peoples wants to make a profit... but even tho i felt that way, i strongly believed in the theory... especially after doing much more research about spirituality and what not... not to mention all life form is is energy... it is definately worth looking into... it also opened up my mind even more than it already was... ive never been big about drugs... dont really like doing them(altho i confess a extasy pill every now and then i do enjoy)... but i had never done hallucinates and never wanted to, but boy am i glad i did... havent done it since or any hallucinate because i lived in vegas at the time amd now im back in texas... i wanna try shrooms next, albeit i hear its more of jus trippin and not so much about enlightenment...

Oh yeah, I definitely have to contribute The Secret dvd for introducing it the LoA and it's the perfect way to teach someone the "tip of the iceberg", only problem is a lot of people think its the entire iceberg.

The thing with shrooms, is it's easily dictated by your mind state. So if some college kids just want to get fudged up, melt their brain and see leprechauns, then that's more or so what you're going to get. And although it's great fun, it's like watching Transformers. Nothing heavy, just an awesome popcorn flick. BUT.. if you use it with the intention of expanding your mind and universe you'll certainly walk away with something. The first time I tried shrooms, I was changed for life. (small examples) I never really cared much for scents. Never really utilized my nose for much. But the morning after my first trip, it's like I unlocked my sense of smell's door that I've always kept shut. Suddenly EVERYTHING with a scent was/is amplified to me. I'm constantly buying candles now, four years later and obsessed with pleasant scents where as I never purchased one candle prior. Other ways it's changed me, is it killed my ego a bit. I'm far more responsive to other peoples situations and observe situations from an all around perspective looking inside out, outside in, and all other directions.



....But going back to the LoA Maloe,
highly recommend you buying the book "The God Academy"
By far above and beyond the greatest most eye opening literature covering the LoA and how to utilize the universe at its highest potential
http://www.amazon.com/The-God-Academ...ds=god+academy

I have many other books as well if you or anyone else is looking for some good sources for LoA info

[Classic]

Originally Posted by BigMaloe What exactly does it pertain to? Is it teaching tibetan practices and beliefs?

Reincarnation, ascent of the soul through the different realms of existence, life after death, journey of the soul type stuff where people can meditate and actually leave their body[your soul leaves your body when you sleep] but see things as their soul sees them on the Astral field through astral projection. Some back drop of Buddhism as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astral_plane

[Classic]

BTW, people who are able to have astral projections, have described being able to access the Akashic records, or the Book of Life as it is called in the Bible:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akashic_records

I plan to read about this guy and some of his experiences soon:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Cayce

sounds like this 'drug' allows the user to have astral projections from the descriptions of people who have used and what I've read about related to the subject...

[BigMaloe]

Originally Posted by TdashDUB Oh yeah, I definitely have to contribute The Secret dvd for introducing it the LoA and it's the perfect way to teach someone the "tip of the iceberg", only problem is a lot of people think its the entire iceberg. The thing with shrooms, is it's easily dictated by your mind state. So if some college kids just want to get fudged up, melt their brain and see leprechauns, then that's more or so what you're going to get. And although it's great fun, it's like watching Transformers. Nothing heavy, just an awesome popcorn flick. BUT.. if you use it with the intention of expanding your mind and universe you'll certainly walk away with something. The first time I tried shrooms, I was changed for life. (small examples) I never really cared much for scents. Never really utilized my nose for much. But the morning after my first trip, it's like I unlocked my sense of smell's door that I've always kept shut. Suddenly EVERYTHING with a scent was/is amplified to me. I'm constantly buying candles now, four years later and obsessed with pleasant scents where as I never purchased one candle prior. Other ways it's changed me, is it killed my ego a bit. I'm far more responsive to other peoples situations and observe situations from an all around perspective looking inside out, outside in, and all other directions. ....But going back to the LoA Maloe, highly recommend you buying the book "The God Academy" By far above and beyond the greatest most eye opening literature covering the LoA and how to utilize the universe at its highest potential http://www.amazon.com/The-God-Academ...ds=god+academy I have many other books as well if you or anyone else is looking for some good sources for LoA info

Yes the secret definately is just the tip, and pertains only to what mainstream controlled people want like cars money and condos etc... i will have to look into finding that book...

And about the shrooms outtake, very valid input... i can see how that would work, of course kids wanna see elephants fly, seems like it hits your subconcsious a little to open your eyes to what you wanna see or learn/know... i live by a bunch of cowfields, i need to try shrooms out someday...

Also TW, im interested on your thoughts of meditation and lucid dreaming/lucid meditation...

A really good buddy of mine is into it (the person who showed me bothLoA and dmt)... he says hes getting close to out of body meditation(or maybe he already has, i forget its been a while)... i personally havent done any meditation... i did a simple youtube relaxation meditation that was nice.but thats all...

Im interested on your thoughts and experiences... i appreciate all your insight and intelligent conversation, would rep if i could...

[BigMaloe]

Originally Posted by Classic Reincarnation, ascent of the soul through the different realms of existence, life after death, journey of the soul type stuff where people can meditate and actually leave their body[your soul leaves your body when you sleep] but see things as their soul sees them on the Astral field through astral projection. Some back drop of Buddhism as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astral_plane

Jnteresting... thank you...

[BigMaloe]

Originally Posted by Classic BTW, people who are able to have astral projections, have described being able to access the Akashic records, or the Book of Life as it is called in the Bible: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akashic_records I plan to read about this guy and some of his experiences soon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Cayce sounds like this 'drug' allows the user to have astral projections from the descriptions of people who have used and what I've read about related to the subject...

Ahh ok... this is what my friend was saying he was trying to accomplish... it is extremely difficult or so he told me but it is exhilerating and life altering...

[Classic]

Originally Posted by BigMaloe Ahh ok... this is what my friend was saying he was trying to accomplish... it is extremely difficult or so he told me but it is exhilerating and life altering...

[derail thread]
The Tibetan book of the Dead states (if I can recall correctly) that only those who have reached a certain enlightenment or state of Buddha, are able to have correct astral projections to the higher planes/realms. If you're not to that state of enlightenment kind of like what Ronny is saying, the lower planes you'll project to are filled with less kind 'deities/souls/demons/ or thought forms as the book refers to them:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoughtform

Really interesting but potentially dangerous stuff. Either way, I've kind of opened my mind to the possibility of life and have sought other cultures and their view points on these types of subjects. Traditional Judeo-Christian beliefs are much newer and limited in view though there are definitely many similarities to much older belief systems out there.

[/derail thread]

[Xsatyr]

I have no idea where to get it.

[BigMaloe]

Originally Posted by Classic [derail thread] The Tibetan book of the Dead states (if I can recall correctly) that only those who have reached a certain enlightenment or state of Buddha, are able to have correct astral projections to the higher planes/realms. If you're not to that state of enlightenment kind of like what Ronny is saying, the lower planes you'll project to are filled with less kind 'deities/souls/demons/ or thought forms as the book refers to them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoughtform Really interesting but potentially dangerous stuff. Either way, I've kind of opened my mind to the possibility of life and have sought other cultures and their view points on these types of subjects. Traditional Judeo-Christian beliefs are much newer and limited in view though there are definitely many similarities to much older belief systems out there. [/derail thread]

Ahh... yes i see... but would you have to work your ways up these levels to reach ultimate enlightwnment thru meditation and astral projection? Or would you have to enlighten yourself concsiously first... its an intrigueing topic of study...

[jordnnnn]

my 1st experience with dmt went something like this:



it was an amazing trip.

[Rasputin12]

Everyone can believe what they want. I can say with honesty that I knew I had been given a second chance when I was roughly 4 years old. The memories were cloudy, but they were enough to understand that I was somewhere before. i remember immediately enjoying the intensity of everything. It was like I was Pinnocchio.

It is sad how this world can beat you down at times, but, much like a roller coaster, I'd love to do it again and again. Perhaps that might be an option in the afterlife?

Nobody has to believe me. My religion says that reincarnation isn't done. But I still recall that day vividly, and I was also able to read, write and do basic math at a very young age, yet my intelligence is average as an adult.

[Mr. Brightside]

Originally Posted by Rasputin12 Everyone can believe what they want. I can say with honesty that I knew I had been given a second chance when I was roughly 4 years old. The memories were cloudy, but they were enough to understand that I was somewhere before. i remember immediately enjoying the intensity of everything. It was like I was Pinnocchio. It is sad how this world can beat you down at times, but, much like a roller coaster, I'd love to do it again and again. Perhaps that might be an option in the afterlife? Nobody has to believe me. My religion says that reincarnation isn't done. But I still recall that day vividly, and I was also able to read, write and do basic math at a very young age, yet my intelligence is average as an adult.

You did DMT at age 4? That's hardcore bro. A bit early if you ask me, but I don't change.

[BigMaloe]

Originally Posted by Rasputin12 Everyone can believe what they want. I can say with honesty that I knew I had been given a second chance when I was roughly 4 years old. The memories were cloudy, but they were enough to understand that I was somewhere before. i remember immediately enjoying the intensity of everything. It was like I was Pinnocchio. It is sad how this world can beat you down at times, but, much like a roller coaster, I'd love to do it again and again. Perhaps that might be an option in the afterlife? Nobody has to believe me. My religion says that reincarnation isn't done. But I still recall that day vividly, and I was also able to read, write and do basic math at a very young age, yet my intelligence is average as an adult.

Im lost... you say you were certain you been somewere else before(referring to another life?) And also talk about your religion not believing in reincarnation... im confused at what you speak of...

And by all means study, learn, practice any religion you want... i am glad you have had a life altering experience... i am sad to hear you were such an intelligent child yet a normaly enlightened grownup... there is a solution to that if you so seek... i am constantly researching information on things i never could have fathomed... google is a hell of a invention and i am infinately smarter because of it...

[SacTown]

Tdashdub learned about the law of attractions and then got some tittays in his face. **** works!!!!!!