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Morey's said in the past they usually will try to move up for a pool of players. They tried to move up to get Patterson and failed, but they ended up getting him anyway. Whether he'll try to move up on draft day or also before, who knows, but my bet is he'll definitely be trying to move up if his "pool" is available.
OK. If Morey has 2-3 guys he would take at #6, it's reasonable he could know before the draft one of them would be available. But moving up just to move up without some certainty a player or two he wants will be there doesn't make sense because of the "assets" required to move up that high.

Right or wrong, I hope something happens to shake things up. Rockets don't need another Marcus Morris.

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I'm also hearing rumblings that Barnes may be in the mix with the Bobcats at No. 2. ESPN.com

Cavs like Lamb. I hear the Kings like Lillard ... but unlikely for both. I think they're draft range starts at No. 6 unless a team trades up ahead of that. ESPN.com

Iggy has been on the block the past 2 summers and hearing it again. Might be an option for a team like the Bobcats or even the Wizards ... think both teams could use multiple assets. ESPN.com

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The Oklahoma City Thunder will likely move the 28th pick. They're satisfied with their core and don't want to pay a rookie guaranteed money.

Not directly related to the Rockets. But this pick could come in handy if we need to move around on draft night.

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I'm also hearing rumblings that Barnes may be in the mix with the Bobcats at No. 2. ESPN.com

Cavs like Lamb.

I hear the Kings like Lillard

Iggy has been on the block the past 2 summers and hearing it again.
Jordan might like the idea of NC product Barnes in Charlotte. Don't know how high is too high for the kid. #2 might be a little of a reach, unless Cleveland has eyes for him.
 
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Jordan might like the idea of NC product Barnes in Charlotte. Don't know how high is too high for the kid. #2 might be a little of a reach, unless Cleveland has eyes for him.
If Michael Jordan drafts him at #2, Charles Barkley will never let him hear the end of it.

http://www.complex.com/sports/2012/0...-nba-executive

Look Michael....draft Bradley Beal at #2 and be happy!
 
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If Michael Jordan drafts him at #2, Charles Barkley will never let him hear the end of it.

http://www.complex.com/sports/2012/0...-nba-executive

Look Michael....draft Bradley Beal at #2 and be happy!
It wouldn't be the first draft Jordan screwed up.
 
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If we move to 6 then i say we get Drummond
 
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Sources say that the New Orleans Hornets (10), Houston Rockets (14, 16) and Minnesota Timberwolves (18) are also open to moving their pick. In all three cases, those teams are looking for established young veterans to fill out their rosters. - Chad Ford, ESPN
 
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If Michael Jordan drafts him at #2, Charles Barkley will never let him hear the end of it.

http://www.complex.com/sports/2012/0...-nba-executive

Look Michael....draft Bradley Beal at #2 and be happy!
Drafting Beal over Barnes would be a huge mistake. I'd accept arguments for Andre or Kidd over Barnes, but not Beal.
 
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Sources say that the New Orleans Hornets (10), Houston Rockets (14, 16) and Minnesota Timberwolves (18) are also open to moving their pick. In all three cases, those teams are looking for established young veterans to fill out their rosters. - Chad Ford, ESPN
Really? Is that what we're looking for?

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Drafting Beal over Barnes would be a huge mistake. I'd accept arguments for Andre or Kidd over Barnes, but not Beal.
I don't have as high an opinion of Barnes - I think he's got a nice set of offensive skills that he can bring to the table, but I don't see the aggressive determination or the ability to create for himself to become a serious first (or second) option in the league. I think he'll be an extremely nice guy to put next to a stellar playmaking point guard or a Dwight Howard-level post presence.

He'd fit in very well with Sacramento if they start going through Cousins. He might work out nicely next to John Wall or Kyrie Irving. Portland could use him so long as they also selected Lilliard or Marshall. He'd be a false messiah if Jordan selects him to save the Bobcats (or to cater to NC box office). He'd be a disaster in Toronto.

If I'm looking for a draft pick to step in and take charge of a team with low star wattage....I definitely nab Robinson, Beal, or maybe even Lilliard before I take Barnes.

And I know I didn't mention MKG. I think he's going to be a fine pro...but I really wonder how much that Kentucky team masked each other's weak points. With MKG, how effective is his offense without so many threats around him taking off defensive pressure? Are teams going to be able to sag off him and dare him to shoot out high? I think you can almost look at him as a 6-7 version of Rajon Rondo - amazing piece to plug in next to a primary scorer....but a risky bet to depend on for 20 a night.

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Drafting Beal over Barnes would be a huge mistake. I'd accept arguments for Andre or Kidd over Barnes, but not Beal.
I'd take Beal over Barnes.
I think Beal is a very special player and would take him #2.

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I don't have as high an opinion of Barnes - I think he's got a nice set of offensive skills that he can bring to the table, but I don't see the aggressive determination or the ability to create for himself to become a serious first (or second) option in the league. I think he'll be an extremely nice guy to put next to a stellar playmaking point guard or a Dwight Howard-level post presence.
I know, I agree completly. I think the guy is an insane athlete and could be a superstar in a few years, but only if he wants to. I was rather disapointed with him this past season. Someone with his skills needs to step up and be aggressive. I think that comes with time, though. Obviously he may not develop that aggression/killer instinct, but I hope he does. He'll be fun to watch if/when he does.
 
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And I know I didn't mention MKG. I think he's going to be a fine pro...but I really wonder how much that Kentucky team masked each other's weak points. With MKG, how effective is his offense without so many threats around him taking off defensive pressure? Are teams going to be able to sag off him and dare him to shoot out high? I think you can almost look at him as a 6-7 version of Rajon Rondo - amazing piece to plug in next to a primary scorer....but a risky bet to depend on for 20 a night.
This was my point in another thread. If MKG didn't play for Kentucky, nobody would be talking about him going #2. He's not an elite NBA prospect.

A 6'7 version of Rondo. That's a interesting way to put it.

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This was my point in another thread. If MKG didn't play for Kentucky, nobody would be talking about him going #2. He's not an elite NBA prospect.

A 6'7 version of Rondo. That's a interesting way to put it.
Yep. That "K" in a University makes a player jump out more than he should.

(Kansas - Marcus Morris)

(Kentucky - PPat)

MKG will be a good NBA player, but there's some hype there too.
 
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Yep. That "K" in a University makes a player jump out more than he should.

(Kansas - Marcus Morris)

(Kentucky - PPat)

MKG will be a good NBA player, but there's some hype there too.
MKG was the among the highest rated recruits coming out of high school (#3 according to the RSCI). Pretty sure teams thought well about his talent before he chose to go to Kentucky.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/...ilchrist-5707/

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MKG was the among the highest rated recruits coming out of high school (#3 according to the RSCI). Pretty sure teams thought well about his talent before he chose to go to Kentucky.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/...ilchrist-5707/
He'll be a good pro, but he falls into a shaky 2nd tier in this draft.

Just saying, Morey and other GMs tend to focus in on these schools and overlook others.
 
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He'll be a good pro, but he falls into a shaky 2nd tier in this draft.

Just saying, Morey and other GMs tend to focus in on these schools and overlook others.
Like Purdue, Oregon, Syracuse, Arizona, Central Florida, Spain, Lithuania, etc?

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A good one to share is "The Milwaukee Bucks would like to draft Tyler Zeller if he's still around with the twelfth overall pick. The team has also been linked to trade talks with the Charlotte Bobcats for the second overall pick."

http://www.iamagm.com/news/2012/06/1...gn.kwame.brown

This is for those of us that would prefer Leonard over Zeller (I'm sort of split, but leaning towards Leonard).
 
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A good one to share is "The Milwaukee Bucks would like to draft Tyler Zeller if he's still around with the twelfth overall pick. The team has also been linked to trade talks with the Charlotte Bobcats for the second overall pick."

http://www.iamagm.com/news/2012/06/1...gn.kwame.brown

This is for those of us that would prefer Leonard over Zeller (I'm sort of split, but leaning towards Leonard).
Gery Woelfel: Bucks, seriously considering North Carolina's John Henson for their top pick.

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