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04-27-2012, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by REEKO_HTOWN
There are a lot of college players that lead the nation in _______ but are garbage in the pros.
I do trust Wade to know what the kid is good at and put him in a position to do it well.
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National leader in sacks
2000 Julius Peppers
2001 Dwight Freeney
2002 Terrell Suggs
2003 Bo Shobel
2004 Johnathan Goddard
2005 Elvis Dummerville
2006 Ameer Ismail
2007 George Selvie
2008 Phillip Hunt
2009 Von Miller
2010 Da'Quan Bowers
2011 Jarvis Jones
If you go look up the national leaders in sacks the last 12 years or so, there is a huge number of pro bowlers and future hall of famers. The ones you have not heard of were primarily from smaller schools that played an easier schedule.
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04-27-2012, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Nook
National leader in sacks
2000 Julius Peppers --- 1st Round, Pick 2
2001 Dwight Freeney --- 1st Round, Pick 11
2002 Terrell Suggs --- 1st Round, Pick 10
2003 Bo Shobel --- 4th Round
2004 Johnathan Goddard --- 6th Round
2005 Elvis Dumervil --- 4th Round
2006 Ameer Ismail --- undrafted
2007 George Selvie --- 7th round, "bridesmaid" to Dorin Dickerson, following pick
2008 Phillip Hunt --- undrafted
2009 Von Miller --- 1st Round, Pick 2
2010 Da'Quan Bowers --- 2nd Round
2011 Jarvis Jones --- in college
If you go look up the national leaders in sacks the last 12 years or so, there is a huge number of pro bowlers and future hall of famers. The ones you have not heard of were primarily from smaller schools that played an easier schedule.
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Put me in that group - Peppers, Freeney, Suggs and Von Miller. All led the nation in sacks, all had elite/sufficient enough measurables to follow that success with status of being chosen in the first round. On occassion, the sack lead is a product of the system, perhaps, which is why some of the sack leaders don't follow up with pro success. For instances where a sack leader followed with a first round selection, the results have been overwhelmingly positive.
"ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!" Mercilus, 2012
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04-27-2012, 11:49 AM
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Did anybody get this pick right on the Texans website? I have a steelers fan at work that entered the contest, he had us taking Mercilus. He also has us taking a TE in the 2nd. I would hate to see a Non-Texans fan win...
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04-27-2012, 12:08 PM
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Bruce Irvin would have been the better pick as far as potential, but apparently he was top 15 on several draft boards so that was never an option.
Mercilus is just an awesome name. Sick stats last year, hard to imagine him not at least being a great situational edge rusher.
Melvin Ingram sucks.
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Reminds me of Mbenga with dreads....
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04-27-2012, 12:17 PM
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04-27-2012, 12:53 PM
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Seriously lol, what a joke. Best 2 pass rushers and the two finalist for DROY and he gave Von Miller a C and Aldon Smith a D.
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04-27-2012, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by body slam
He may have been a one year wonder, but so was Mario Williams when he was drafted.
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Not really. Mario had a breakout year, just like Mercilus, but he was a 3 year starter and had 50+ tackles each season. His sack numbers just jumped from 11 in his first 2 years to 14 in his 3rd. Mercilus wasn't a starter until this past year. Mercilus was a backup his first 2 years and really didn't do much.
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04-27-2012, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ron413
guess we needed to replace some on DEF since we got cheap and let few contributors go in free agency
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Is this honestly your perception of how their offseason went down? they were "cheap"? Really? That's what you think?
Mystifying.......
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04-27-2012, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Hey Now!
Is this honestly your perception of how their offseason went down? they were "cheap"? Really? That's what you think?
Mystifying.......
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The idea of a hard salary cap is confusing for some people.
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04-27-2012, 02:37 PM
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My phone froze on that part, I feel like I can smell it.
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04-27-2012, 02:51 PM
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As a Steelers fan I very much agree with this sentiment. With that said, none of the guys listed (Maybe Chad Brown?) were a first round pick. You can get raw LBs and develop them pretty easily.
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Steelers and other 3-4 teams do this all the time, you've got to have a guy ready to replace the OLBs all the time because eventually somebody's gonna get a sh-tload of sacks and demand a new contract.
Greg Lloyd, Kevin Greene, Chad Brown, Jason Gildon, Clark Haggans, Joey Porter, Lamar Woodley, James Harrison...etc
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04-27-2012, 04:58 PM
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04-27-2012, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Hey Now!
Is this honestly your perception of how their offseason went down? they were "cheap"? Really? That's what you think?
Mystifying.......
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This is what is mystifying.
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Originally Posted by Hey Now!
Given their other, more pressing needs, I'd be shocked if they used one of their first 4 picks on an OLB
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Your lack of knowledge and yet desire to scream the loudest.
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04-27-2012, 05:17 PM
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People should really stop b******* bout the pick. I trust Wade Phillips more than some
Local Internet nerd calling Rich Lord to vent. We still have six picks remaining tools
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04-27-2012, 05:24 PM
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Beautiful.
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04-27-2012, 05:45 PM
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would his name be even more awesome if it was whitey mercilus?
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04-27-2012, 06:16 PM
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At the time of the draft, however, it was still assumed that Mario would play DE, not OLB...so drafting a DE seemed irrational. That was my thought process, at least...I thought we drafted Watt to rotate with Mario and Smith, which isnt what I wanted from a first rounder picked that high.
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04-27-2012, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by david_rocket
Next year we play against great QBs, the texans pick Mercilus, a pass rusher.
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A fact that many Texans fans have failed to realize :-(. 10-6
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04-27-2012, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by got em COACH
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