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vaioavan63 is offline Old 04-18-2012, 09:18 PM   #41
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Usually, during the week, because of work, I eat dinner around 9pm and after Im done eating I chug a glass of water to wash it down. Then I go to bed at 10. It never occurred to me that that would be bad what's the danger in that? Am I supposed to get fat? Diabetes? Anything I should worry about?
What's this fancy enzyme, digestive process talk? Gringos worry too much.
 
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This is pretty bull****. A glass of water with a meal isnt gonna dilute your stomach acids.
 
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This is pretty bull****. A glass of water with a meal isnt gonna dilute your stomach acids.
Some people are willing to believe anything they read on the internet. Most internet users have not received enough education in basic science, so they have difficulties discerning fact from fiction. This is similar to the fact I am always getting ripped off by my mechanic. Those without knowledge in a field are lousy at understanding what they're being told.
 
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Some people are willing to believe anything they read on the internet. Most internet users have not received enough education in basic science, so they have difficulties discerning fact from fiction. This is similar to the fact I am always getting ripped off by my mechanic. Those without knowledge in a field are lousy at understanding what they're being told.
well, at least someone has common sense.

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Some people are willing to believe anything they read on the internet. Most internet users have not received enough education in basic science, so they have difficulties discerning fact from fiction. This is similar to the fact I am always getting ripped off by my mechanic. Those without knowledge in a field are lousy at understanding what they're being told.
Without sufficient knowledge in having knowledge, I'm willing to believe this post.
 
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Some people are willing to believe anything they read on the internet. Most internet users have not received enough education in basic science, so they have difficulties discerning fact from fiction. This is similar to the fact I am always getting ripped off by my mechanic. Those without knowledge in a field are lousy at understanding what they're being told.
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I've always drunk a ****load of water while eating meals. I remember asking my HS AP Biology teacher way back when about the effect of water and digestion, with the possibility of dilution of enzymes/acids, she pretty much dismissed it on the spot and said water actually helps the process of hydrolysis.

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I just drank milk with cereal....

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I'm not saying i agree with waiting to drink water, but youre saying it's wrong because of those basics you listed, which you are assuming are natural or proven guidelines, but they aren't. Someone else could easily say its 3,4 or 6 meals a day and would be no more right or wrong than you are. Same goes for not eating X hours before sleeping.
I previously found that there is significantly more research to suggest 5 is optimal based on regular diet and sleep, rather than 3, 4 or 6.

For sleep, that's why I said between 1 and 4. It's the principle: your body is less active and so you don't need as much food. This doesn't stop me from drinking a light caseine + water shake every night before I sleep. I get the point, some people will need less, and some more, but no one needs high calorie foods during periods of inactivity unless recovering.

But with water, there seems to be no middle ground and it's driving me mad. I love diet soda but quit sweetners (Except Stevia or xylitol, but they're not cheap or widely available here).

Since last year (and for the next 2 years) I've basically decided to do trial and error on my body for all the most significant stuff we consume. After looking at bodybuilding.com long enough, I figured that there are really very few definitive answers in nutrition and exercise, a lot of myths, and most importantly - each body is far more unique than I ever though possible. So trial and error is important to my long-term health IMO.

But I need something to drink man. I've cut out all fruit juice (unless I need it in controlled quantity and super fresh), diet and regular sodas, coffee, and pretty much anything which has refined sugar or HFCS. I've decided that I can't manage beverages higher than 100-200 calorie range.

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On top of that, I can't have breakfast today, and I'm usually roraing for a good breakfast since I work out mid day.

Thanks for all links and advice btw, I am reading anything and everything. For those who seem to have in depth knowledge, would really appreciate any more information you could share.

You may not think this is a big deal, but I assure you some people will suffer/benefit tremendously from the advice in this thread. I have a friend who cut his time on the pot from 35 minutes to 15 minutes by controlling the timing of drinking water. His digestive system is not great, and this helps him a lot.

As for me, I'm just trying to know what is optimum and use it as a guide. Even if you don't stick to this manic water drinking schedule (which I don't envisage myself doing long term either), at least you know which direction you should be thinking. It's something we should do 8 times a day, wouldn't hurt us to learn a bit more about it.
 
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I just drank milk with cereal....
Try with some juice or with a yoghurt drink. Delicious.
 
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Some people are willing to believe anything they read on the internet. Most internet users have not received enough education in basic science, so they have difficulties discerning fact from fiction. This is similar to the fact I am always getting ripped off by my mechanic. Those without knowledge in a field are lousy at understanding what they're being told.
Unfortunately, there's a lot of misinformation, in the science field, that is given out by those who are suppose to be informed. One may not know enough to say who is wrong, but if you have two professionals with different or opposite viewpoints, then common sense tells you at least one of them is. That's why you have people like Mathloom, who try to figure it out on their own.
 
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If this were true then how comes McDonalds sell drinks with their meals?

They are the epitome of healthy eating, surely they would be pioneering this.

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Unfortunately, there's a lot of misinformation, in the science field, that is given out by those who are suppose to be informed. One may not know enough to say who is wrong, but if you have two professionals with different or opposite viewpoints, then common sense tells you at least one of them is. That's why you have people like Mathloom, who try to figure it out on their own.
I would love for there to be one trusted source about these questions, is there one you that is all-trustworthy?

While some responsibility should be put on people to improve their scientific knowledge, it is equally (if not more) pragmatic and realistic for the science industry to also work towards bridging the communication gap between science geek and regular person.

This type of question I'm asking, I would've expected a clear unanimous answer. I thought I was the idiot for now knowing. Turns out no one is 100% sure, except as you said the proffessionals who themselves can't seem to agree.
 
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I would love for there to be one trusted source about these questions, is there one you that is all-trustworthy?

While some responsibility should be put on people to improve their scientific knowledge, it is equally (if not more) pragmatic and realistic for the science industry to also work towards bridging the communication gap between science geek and regular person.

This type of question I'm asking, I would've expected a clear unanimous answer. I thought I was the idiot for now knowing. Turns out no one is 100% sure, except as you said the proffessionals who themselves can't seem to agree.
Ask your doctor instead of a bunch of people on a basketball forum.
There was a doctor at my church who told my mom that water isnt good for digestion when drunk with a meal. i however drink about 2-3 cups of water during my meal. depends on how thirsty i am.

i would think chew well and your stomach doesnt have to work as hard.
btw, the doctor who told my mom this also told me that it really doesnt make that much of a difference for me but my mom was having digestive problems and so it might help her.

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Ask your doctor instead of a bunch of people on a basketball forum.
There was a doctor at my church who told my mom that water isnt good for digestion when drunk with a meal. i however drink about 2-3 cups of water during my meal. depends on how thirsty i am.

i would think chew well and your stomach doesnt have to work as hard.
btw, the doctor who told my mom this also told me that it really doesnt make that much of a difference for me but my mom was having digestive problems and so it might help her.
But that doesn't make sense. What if I go to 10 doctors, and the opinions are split 5-5? There's a reason why it's called doctor's advice/opinion, it's not final.

On top of that, chances that a doctor in Dubai (where there is zero medical research going on) getting the answer right is IMO slim to none. We have two types of doctors here: the money lovers and the antiques. I doubt a real doctor would set up shop in Dubai.

One doctor's answer won't solve the question. Best to listen to everything I think and then it becomes easier to discern credible sources from non-credible ones.
 
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On top of that, chances that a doctor in Dubai (where there is zero medical research going on) getting the answer right is IMO slim to none. We have two types of doctors here: the money lovers and the antiques. I doubt a real doctor would set up shop in Dubai.
You could always go to Germany for medical help. But don't forget to "scream at the top of your lungs about Germany" while you do so.

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