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Islamist terror to start the new year in Egypt, Nigeria

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, Jan 1, 2011.

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  1. s land balla

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    EVERYONE knows this already.

    The question is, what should the world do about it?
     
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  2. R0ckets03

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  3. DaDakota

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    That indeed is the question........you could just kill them....but who decides what is extremism and what is not?

    Slippery slope....

    DD
     
    #83 DaDakota, Jan 6, 2011
  4. s land balla

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    A little communism never hurt anybody.

    Just sayin'... ;)
     
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  5. DaDakota

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    Honestly, I am leaning towards a multinational hit squad, that hears evidence and puts out a hit on anyone preaching hatred or violence against civilization.

    Give them time to see that their name has come up and mend their ways or.....PFFFT...death....

    Got to fight fire with fire...

    DD
     
    #85 DaDakota, Jan 6, 2011
  6. s land balla

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    That's a scarier thought than the horrific situation they're already in. :eek:

    WWGMD?

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    #86 s land balla, Jan 6, 2011
  7. Mathloom

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    DD is living, breathing proof that terrorists are winning the mental war by a large margin.

    It's exactly the kind of thing OBL and his buddies laugh about back in the cave because DD doesn't realize that the ensuing proxy wars would get World War III going.

    It's also funny to me that DD is willing to engage in a large scale holocaust to (in his head) purify Islam. That's kinda funny to me.
     
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  8. DaDakota

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    It is not to purify Islam Mathloom, no need to be that sensitive.

    It is a civilized group of nations that are protecting itself against people who incite violence against that civilation for whatever reason.

    It would have to be proven that these folks were inciting violence, but once proven they would be marked for assassination.

    Not saying it is a good or bad idea, but it is an idea.

    For the record OBL would be on that list, easily....as would Milosovic and a few others.....the key would be the tribunal and the evidence, sort of a world court so to speak....

    The only way to deal with a bully is to bully them back. You preach death, or terror, you die.....simple...

    BTW - I know it would never work, getting nations to agree on something like that would never happen.....

    DD
     
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  9. Depressio

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    ATW's probably posted this, but if not, he'd enjoy it:

    <object style="height: 390px; width: 640px"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/D8n9M_aJW5c?version=3"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/D8n9M_aJW5c?version=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="390"></object>

    It's pretty disturbing, IMO. Showing the video was stupid (I don't know why the guy did it), but the reaction from the Muslims in the crowd was a horrible overreaction from several. They could have easily left the room. Pretty creepy at first, then they start becoming a bit more logical later on. I can't say I'd label these folks as extremists either, but man... overreaction. Maybe since I'm atheist, I just can't understand the emotion.

    Religion is so... emotional. Not good.

    (P.S. - This is more of a dig at religion as a whole, not Islam. I personally think if it was a video of Jesus doing gay sexual acts, fundamentalist Christians could potentially react in a similar fashion, but that's hypothetical of course.)
     
    #89 Depressio, Jan 7, 2011
  10. trustme

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    Out of every poster here, you're the one who has preached the most violence so far. I've been noticing this trend in the past few threads. What's gotten into you? Your reasons are pretty dumb as well. As ATW would say, why so angry?
     
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  11. DaDakota

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    Do unto others......

    The civilized world should be able to protect itself against zealots who try to bring it down by using it's own tolerance to commit heinous acts.

    There needs to be reprucussions for the people who commit these acts, but also for those who inspire them.

    I think people that are preaching hatred are just as culpable as those that are strapping the bombs and going into public places to blow people up.

    They hide behind a veil of religion, and corrupt said religion driving a wedge between good people all over the world......

    Good people consider their actions and words before saying them, realizing that sometimes there are reprucussions in what you say, that consideration is running unchecked in the zealot community, and IMO, that is the root of the problem.

    Maybe if the zealots had to think a bit before they spoke, they would be less inclined to inspire people to commit heinous acts of violence.

    And knowing that they would be targetted to be killed, might be just such a lever to get them to consider their words a bit more carefully.

    Who knows though....it will never happen......anyway......and what will happen because of it?

    I don't know...probably war, where millions of innocent people will die because of it......

    And that is the saddest thing of all.

    /rant

    DD
     
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  12. weslinder

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    Good story

     
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  13. DaDakota

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    That is awesome !

    DD
     
    #93 DaDakota, Jan 7, 2011
  14. trustme

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    Agreed. The first step everyone needs to take is to agree that it isn't the religion at fault, it's those who twist it and brainwash the poor and uneducated. Those are the ones who need to be 'taken care of' and it's quiet unfortunate that not only do they hide behind the veil of religion, but also camouflage themselves amongst the 1.5 billion people who happen to share the same religion (but not the same belief/methodology).
     
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  15. DaDakota

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    See, how is it that we TAKE CARE of them though?

    Because the problem is spreading and good people all over the world are joining out of fear....

    That has to be stopped.....because these people are spreading their hate without any fear of their own......

    They should be held accountable for their actions.

    DD
     
    #95 DaDakota, Jan 7, 2011
  16. Refman

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    That is incredibly brave. To put your life on the line because of a problem you did not create is to protect other people, even in the face of the ultimate price. I cannot even imagine what that is like.
     
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    Wow...gross and completely unacceptable behavior by most Muslims in that video. Shows off for the ignorant idiots that they probably are.

    I'm a Muslim and yeah the beginning of that video is definitely offensive. The smart thing to do would be to get up and just leave if you are that offended. If others want to watch that crap then by all means knock yourself out.
     
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  18. AroundTheWorld

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    Hysterical idiots, and yes, this kind of reaction is on average a lot more likely from Muslims than from Christians, and that is the sad truth. Are there fundamentalist Christians who would possibly behave similarly? I guess. Are there a lot more Muslims who constantly react like this? Yes.

    Constant outrage, threats, obscene swearing, insults ("pig", "****", etc.), excessive anger and hate, unbelievable intolerance, while at the same time thinking they are something better and consider themselves extra-pious because they scream "Muhammad" and "Allahu Akbar". We have the same here on the board, Hydhypedplaya and adeelsiddiqui ("pbuh") are examples of it.

    Welcome to some people's (and we are not talking 1 % here) interpretation of the "religion of peace".

    The only apparent Muslim guy who seemed to behave somewhat civilized was the guy who told the others "let the police do their job, no aggression toward the police". I guess it might have meant "aggression toward Lars Vilks is ok", but relative to the other crazies, this guy was rather sane. Let's call him the Mathloom of the group. Although I could not see it, there might have been some Muslims who were embarrassed to be there and who were very quiet, I guess you could compare them to the very reasonable Muslim posters here, like R0ckets03, s land balla, etc.

    Good thing they had enough security people there (great reaction by the security people who remained calm). Imagine the room without security people and imagine what would happen. Then imagine being in a country where this kind of hysterical people are in the majority and rule the country.

    Welcome to Pakistan, Saudi-Arabia, Iran and other islamic nations.

    And then you wonder why Danes, Swedes, etc. are worried about these people gaining more influence? Really?
     
    #98 AroundTheWorld, Jan 8, 2011
  19. NMS is the Best

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    I'd say most of those qualities describe you very well... :p
     
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    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...1SHmnw?docId=01249e86dd844f6c9142cfaecda9855c

    Somali Islamists ban men, women from shaking hands

    MOGADISHU, Somalia (AP) — Al-Qaida-linked militants in war-torn southern Somalia have banned unrelated men and women from shaking hands, speaking or walking together in public, residents said Saturday. People who break the rules could be imprisoned, whipped or even executed.
    The insurgents already have banned women from working in public, leaving many mothers with a terrible choice: risk execution by going to sell some tea or vegetables in the marketplace, or stay safely at home and watch the children slowly starve.
    "It's an awful rule. I feel like I'm under arrest. I've started to ignore the greetings of the women I know to avoid punishment," Hussein Ali said by phone form the southern Somali town of Jowhar. The edict is also being enforced in the town of Elasha.
    Gunmen are searching buses for improperly dressed women or women traveling alone, said student Hamdi Osman in Elasha. She said she was once beaten for wearing Somali traditional dress instead of the long, shapeless black robes favored by the fighters.
    The Islamists' insistence that women wear the long, heavy robes also forces many women to stay at home because they can't afford the new clothing.
    Al-Shabab controls most of southern and central Somalia, and the group is trying to overthrow the weak U.N.-backed government. Analysts believe that many Somalis don't support the insurgency because of the harsh punishments and severe restrictions it imposes, and because it often kidnaps children to use as fighters.
    But after 20 years of civil war, the government is too weak, corrupt and divided to present a credible challenge to the insurgents. The Somali government is protected by 8,000 heavily armed African Union peacekeepers but has failed to deliver any security or services to the population.
    The insurgents even control parts of the capital, brazenly carrying out amputations, whippings and stonings in public places. The list of forbidden things differs from town to town and commander to commander.
    In Jowhar, the insurgents are now also insisting that men grow their beards but shave their mustaches, said another resident, who asked not to be named for fear of retribution.
    The Islamists have also banned the cinema, music, and bras because they say they are all un-Islamic. Such restrictions are influenced by foreign fighters practicing Wahhabi Islam, which is much stricter than Somalia's traditional Sufi Islam that incorporates a long tradition of poetry and song.
    "The last time I listened a song or music, was two years ago, before the insurgents managed the full control of my village," said Bile Hassan. Now, he says, even the memory of music makes him feel afraid.
     
    #100 AroundTheWorld, Jan 9, 2011
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