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hooroo is offline Old 02-07-2008, 07:04 PM   #1
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With Deng out for a few weeks and Hinrich with bruised ribs maybe a trade is in the works?

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Viktor Khryapa closed his eyes, as much to try to forget the wasted years he is now leaving behind as to sleep.

With the paperwork almost completed on the buyout of his NBA contract and negotiations under way to sign with the prominent CSKA Moscow professional team in Russia, Khryapa is free to reflect on his two forgotten seasons with the Bulls.

There aren't many happy memories.

"Sure I'm frustrated just because I never had a chance to play," Khryapa said. "Not because of anything else. I liked my teammates and the organization. But I feel I did everything from my side. I proved to them I could play when I got the chance. During the season I practiced hard. But for some reason, I never had a chance to play and nobody could explain why. Basically I lost two years of my career."

Bulls general manager John Paxson was expected to release a statement on Khryapa's situation later Thursday. Paxson is the one who asked for Khryapa in the 2006 draft-day trade in which the Trail Blazers and Bulls swapped draft rights between LaMarcus Aldridge and Tyrus Thomas.

Yet Khryapa never won over former coach Scott Skiles and also plays the same position as Luol Deng and Andres Nocioni. That's why, when his playing time didn't increase after Jim Boylan took over as interim coach, Khryapa approached Paxson regarding a buyout in late December.

"I appreciate what John did and want to say thank you to him," Khryapa said. "He understands my situation."

A first-round draft pick in 2004, Khryapa is just 25. Yet with a 2-year-old son at home and basically two seasons of inactivity behind him, Khryapa said he must play for a paycheck anywhere and doesn't know if the NBA is in his future.

"I lost this time, two very important years," Khryapa said. "I have to work hard and sign a good deal. Right now, no one knows I'm a good player so I can't sign a good deal [in the NBA]. I have a family and have to think about the future. So we'll see about the NBA.

"But for now, I will go my way. And the Bulls will go theirs."
 
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I love how these foreign players supposedly play so great but "for some reason" don't get minutes. I guess the thought never occurs to them that a coach who doesn't play his best players doesn't keep his job long.

How long before we hear that Khryapa no longer believes Paxson's lies?
 
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yeah, those foreign players...
 
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It happens to American players too...

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It happens to American players too...

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But for the sake of my post let's not discuss that.

Seriously, VSpan (I know he was your boy but he sucked) Kryilenko and now Khryapa come to mind when it comes to whining about coaches not recognizing their ability.
 
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But for the sake of my post let's not discuss that.

Seriously, VSpan (I know he was your boy but he sucked) Kryilenko and now Khryapa come to mind when it comes to whining about coaches not recognizing their ability.
But it happens all the time where players do not fit into a particular coaches style and once they are in a better system for their talents they flourish.

Dale Ellis was probably the best example......but it happens a lot.

Coaches get locked into a thought process about a player and it is nearly impossible to change their minds.....at least the bad or average coaches that is.....the great ones are maliable.

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But for the sake of my post let's not discuss that.

Seriously, VSpan (I know he was your boy but he sucked) Kryilenko and now Khryapa come to mind when it comes to whining about coaches not recognizing their ability.
Khryapa was in the league for 4 years and in the two years in Chicago he was definately buried but he was unlucky to be behind Deng and Nocioni. He was starting to show his ability in his second year in Portland but then got traded as filler.

As for AK47 if a player has given you all star calibre play at a position and then a coach moves him to a position where he's sruggling his way to DNPs then yes the coach shoulder a greater portion of the blame.
 
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who the bleep is that?

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How long before we hear that Khryapa no longer believes Paxson's lies?
Haha, that original quote was funny as hell and I believe it was "V-Span no longer hates Van Gundy's lies".

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...at least the bad or average coaches that is.....the great ones are maliable.
V-Span sucked, get over it.
 
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I love how these foreign players supposedly play so great but "for some reason" don't get minutes. I guess the thought never occurs to them that a coach who doesn't play his best players doesn't keep his job long.

How long before we hear that Khryapa no longer believes Paxson's lies?

It happens to american players too.

Jermaine O'Neal and the Blazers.
Ben Wallace and the Magic.
Diaw and the Hawks.
 
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It happens to american players too.

Jermaine O'Neal and the Blazers.
Ben Wallace and the Magic.
Diaw and the Hawks.
I never understand why people always side with the coaches in these instances....like they know more than the players etc....

It is like being a doctor, most people don't want to believe that there are bad doctors out there....

Just as there are bad coaches, or ones that are myopic in their approach, which may not fit a particular player.

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Walter Hermann is buried on the bench. Who wouldn't want him on their squad?
 
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Honestly, I think a lot of American coaches bury their Euro players and never give them a shot. Look at Beno Udrih. He was buried on Popovich's bench for whatever reason and then went to Sacremento and shined.
 
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It happens to american players too.

Jermaine O'Neal and the Blazers.
Ben Wallace and the Magic.
Diaw and the Hawks.
All those guys went on to be great players. Vspan took his ball and went home, Kryalenko has stuck around but he cried all summer and now this cat in Chicago is doing the same thing.
 
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All those guys went on to be great players. Vspan took his ball and went home, Kryalenko has stuck around but he cried all summer and now this cat in Chicago is doing the same thing.
true, Gilbert Arenas was buried on the bench for a long time. Now look at him. Agent Zero!
 
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i dont remember the exact trade but didnt the bulls trade aldridge for thomas and khryapa? or did they also get something else back from portland? like another pick

if they didnt then that was silly they really could have used aldridge instead of thomas oh well..

that bulls team has a lot of young talent looking to get paid and a lot of similar players

even with the recent injuries its hard to believe that they are as terrible as their record shows in the east

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Because contrary to popular belief, Scott Skiles isn't that great of a coach. He's defininately not a players coach and from a friend of mine who played against him in high school, he said that Skiles is a cocky SOB who's arrogant as all get out.
 
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rockets should look into kryhpa.

seems pretty desperate to play. sounds like he'd play like a mad man. gotta feed his kid like cinderella man.
 
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This guy was like a more athletic version of Ryan Bowen and people are wondering why he didn't play?

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