Inexperienced, very liberal politician files papers to run for President

too much, too soon. I think he would make an excellent candidate someday...but has he even completed a senate term yet? too much, too soon.

 

I agree with this, but after the last eight years, what could be worse?

 

Condeleeza Rice...shudder.

 

Did the idiot in charge have any more experience?

Barack Hussein Obama for president!​

 

Using GWB as a barometer for Presidential candidates is a horrible idea.

 

also the more time he gets the more record there will be for rove and company to slander.

im not sure who i want so far. obama or edwards. anything but clinton.

 

Abraham Lincoln's experience included 8 years in the Illinois state legislature and 2 years in Congress. I think he turned out OK...

 

I think he is in a Catch 22: he is too young and inexperienced but he is on such a huge surge of momentum right now that he probably feels he has to ride it.

It will be interesting if he does run and loses because these days it seems as if people are only given one chance...unlike years past where a failed presidential run could be followed by a successful one.

 

How about McCain? Personally I think he would make a great President.

 

I think that's more the result of them being crappy candidates that people weren't thrilled with in the first place. If you're a good candidate and lose, I think you can still come back and run again a bit easier.

But with both Gore & Kerry, people were generally voting for the lesser of two evils, not because they were truly excited about them.

 

yes that's exactly my point also. He's got too many things going against him right now for him to win in 08 IMO. If he loses in '08 you know people will start questioining if a black person could ever be President. If Obama loses or has a bad showing, it could set not just him, but future black candidates back for years. IMO, the perfect black candidate would be a moderate-conservative with years of proven experience in the Federal gov't.

Yes, there are presidents who have won with less experience, but they were white. Obama is not.

 

I used to think he was great and stood for his principles, but the way he acted recently he is becoming more and more like a regular politician and not someone special. Maybe I am hoping for too much, oh well.

 

Dying for the right cause is worthwhile, no one ever said too many American soliders died in WWII. What exactly was the reason for going to Iraq? Ummm, to create more terrorists so we can kill them all, ya that's it!

 

He's reaching out to the right wing because without them, there's no way he can get past the primaries. I think he has cross party aappeal and support, but that won't help in the primaries. The right wing have been suspicious of McCain for a very long time now because of his remarks on several issues which went against the Bush Administration stance. The sad fact is that if McCain wants to win, then he has to court the right wing vote. Maybe I'm naieve or hopeful, but I think he is a man of principle (or as much as a politician can be) and would restore dignity to the office after 8 years of sex scandals and then 8 years of utter idiocy and incompetence not to mention potential voter fraud, etc.

 

So you say without any support for your argument.

 

exactly he's just a media w****. he's not a man of principle. he's got it wrapped up for the republican primaries. theres no one else who can contend with allen out.

however frankly who the hell cares about sex scandals. the rest of the world deals with it. why are we so backwards about sex? get over it people.

 

Giuliani is one big name still out there who has an outside chance of beating McCain (very outside chance IMO because of his social issues stances). And every politician is a media w****, not just McCain. How else are you gonna get voted in this day and age?

If it's ok with you that the President carries on an extra marital affair in the oval office, then ok, I don't think we have much to discuss.

 

I do agree with you but I also think our modern media culture is more unforgiving and more quick to label someone a loser and be dismissive. That our media culture has a short focus and quickly wants to move on to someone/thing else. If Obama loses in the Dem primaries, it is no big deal. If he loses a national election I think it would be interesting to see what happened.

hotballa - I agree with you on the race issue. The only way Obama could be worse was if he was from New England (although I think the unique situation of his name combined with current events more than makes up for that in the negative aspect).