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Barack Obama for President

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Batman Jones, Dec 5, 2006.

  1. gifford1967

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    So now the important issue basso. What source did you rely on to so confidently declare that Felix wasn't George Allen's middle name. Was it it a source you rely on routinely to get information and form opinions?
     
  2. GladiatoRowdy

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    Just as you, when you repeat your lie that Obama is "Muslim," insinuate that all Muslims are terrorists or support a terrorist agenda. That is terrible that you would spit in the face of the billion or so Muslims who are peaceful, law-abiding members of society not just in the US, but worldwide. You should be ashamed of yourself. Your lying, racist xenophobia is out of control.
     
  3. El_Conquistador

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    What an incredible lie. You need a timeout. Consider yourself officially warned.
     
  4. GladiatoRowdy

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    It is official, Jorge is a little, petty man with delusions of grandeur. He calls ME out as a liar for pointing out his repeated lie, decides that I need a punishment that I mete out to my two year old, and then "officially" warns me in a forum for which he has ZERO authority.

    What an incredible blowhard. You need a timeout. Consider yourself unofficially (since I realize that I have no power over this forum even if you don't) warned .
     
  5. GladiatoRowdy

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    BTW, if me saying that your name makes it sound like you could be an illegal alien insinuates that I am a racist, your lie that Obama is Muslim, implying that this somehow disqualifies him from the Presidency, is just as racist.

    It shouldn't be surprising that you did not understand my obviously sarcastic response to you. I will again offer you the remedial reading comprehension class we offer at the college where I work. We don't charge out of district fees, so the whole bill should total no more than $150 or so.
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    Yes that was his appeal. He wasn't making a humrous quip in a speech about Ford's qualifications.

    If you really believe what you typed, then I honestly feel sorry for you.
     
  7. Batman Jones

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    After repeating over and over again that Felix was not Allen's middle name like we were all a bunch of idiots for believing it was, after repeating over and over again that the use of it was anti-semitic (whaaaa????), after ignoring repeated proof that you were wrong on both counts and ignoring repeated requests for a link, any link, to the contrary, finally Sam somehow got through to you and your mea culpa was "sam owned me?" Whatever. Typically weak for someone who, like his hero, seems congenitally unable to admit a mistake.

    I already said the use of Felix was stupid and counterproductive and made the users of it no better than kindergartners like Jorge with his repeated FORBES Kerry nanny nanny boo boo junk, but the thing is that the use of Felix was only meant to poke fun at Allen's fake cowboy image. Similarly, the Forbes thing was meant to poke fun at Kerry's life of wealth and privelege. That stuff is dumb, but it's not blatant xenophobia. If you hadn't been so stupidly wrong about the relative Jewiness of the name Felix, you might have a point -- but you were so stupidly wrong about it. The morons that pushed the Felix thing were trying to make a dork of Allen; the assholes pushing Hussein are trying to marry Obama to a murderous dicator. Of course, in your world, that's the same. But in your world the sky is yellow (and why can't you idiot Dems admit it?!?!) for two weeks no matter who tells you it's blue, posts links to photos of it and asking you to do the same until, finally, you say "I was owned but I had tons of sex you masturbaters!"

    Gross, dude. You are so freaking creepy. Nobody here wants to hear about your sex or mine and it is beyond creepy weird that you are so obsessed with my sex life. This is, after all, like the fifth time you've made some weird reference to it. Since you're so interested though, my sex life is swell. I live with my beautiful girlfriend and we have a very great time together. Now please never talk about your sex life to me again. It is beyond gross to me.

    Wowie! Two non-Latino Felixes!! What are the odds! I'm sure there are more than a hundred Jewish Felixes too -- that in no way lessens the incredible stupidity of suggesting it's a Jewish name or that the use of it was (LOFL) anti-Semitic.
     
  8. El_Conquistador

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    Thanks Bats. I like to use you in particular to float trial balloons. You know, see what stuff Republicans can float out there without repurcussions, and what won't work. Forbes Kerry was a big hit. Libpigs was a big hit. Trust a Tyrant strategy was a hit. Balack Osama was toeing the line, as was Half Barack, but I do believe Hussein Obama is tolerable. Obama's Muslim name and education could be powerful, as could the bimbo eruptions. We'll see. This will be a long term project for party leadership to rip apart and destroy Obama. In the end, it will happen. It will be walking a fine line the whole way between impactful and offensive, but it will happen. You are like a free focus group of angry, anti-war libs.
     
  9. SamFisher

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    Uh, yeah, that's great that you pointed out two Germans named Felix. I'm guessing they weren't named after Feliks Dzherzinksy, Stalin's Polish KGB chief and the architect of many a purge and the occasional pogrom.

    Of course the root is latin, later co-opted by early christian saints, making it no more jewish than "Antonio" or "Diana" or "Barbara" , and I guess the Felix restaurant reference was lost on you - I meant Felix on Westheimer & Montrose, a longtime Houston Tex-mex institution, especially on sunday morning for the after-church crowd.

    I'm guessing, but I believe it's even more common in Puerto Rico and the DR than in Mexico (you sure you live in NYC?) as Felix Trinidad can attest...

    Anyway, google indicates that there's 1.67 million hits for Felix in Spanish, and 34,000 hits in Hebrew....so score one for the anti-Felix brigade like yourself.
     
  10. MadMax

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    love that place! my parents used to go on dates there as high school kids. we would go there nearly every sunday after church. good memories. the guy who would wait on us each week is still working there. carlos.
     
  11. basso

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    Felix Mendelssohn, who converted to Protestantism and dedicated a symphony to the Reformation was an Ashkenazi Jew.

    the above from wikipedia, as is the below.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin...6#Allen.27s_remarks_about_his_Jewish_heritage

    [rquoter]Allen's remarks about his Jewish heritage

    In the wake of the Macaca controversy, the Jewish periodical The Forward reported that in all likelihood, Allen's mother Etty Allen, née Henrietta Lumbroso, was Jewish "from the august Sephardic Jewish Lumbroso family",[45] and that therefore by the Jewish legal rule of matrilineal descent, Allen himself would be considered Jewish.

    On September 18, 2006, Allen and Webb debated each other at the Fairfax County Chamber of Commerce.[46] One of the more interesting aspects of this debate came when Allen was questioned by WUSA-TV anchor Peggy Fox. Fox said: "It has been reported [that] your grandfather Felix, whom you were given your middle name for, was Jewish. Could you please tell us whether your forebears include Jews and, if so, at which point Jewish identity might have ended?" This led to a booing from the crowd and anger from Allen who admonished Fox for "making aspersions" and responded: "To be getting into what religion my mother is, I don't think is relevant...Why is that relevant -- my religion, Jim's religion or the religious beliefs of anyone out there?"[47] The next day, Allen issued a statement confirming his mother's Jewish ancestry. The statement read:


    I was raised as a Christian and my mother was raised as a Christian. And I embrace and take great pride in every aspect of my diverse heritage, including my Lumbroso family line’s Jewish heritage, which I learned about from a recent magazine article and my mother confirmed.[48]



    Allen also told the Richmond Times-Dispatch, in a reference to kosher dieting, "I still had a ham sandwich for lunch. And my mother made great pork chops."[49] The Washington Post reported that Allen's mother feared retribution against her family if her religious and ethnic background became public, and had originally asked Allen to keep that information private.[50] Although no mention is made of her mother's religion in Allen's sister's book, she does mention that the Catholic Church, before marrying the couple, required Allen's parents to agree that any children would be raised Catholic, and as a result they decided to be married by a justice of the peace in the home of a Jewish friend.[45][/rquoter]

    it seems pretty clear that the use of Allen's middle name was meant as an anti-semitic slur.
     
  12. Batman Jones

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    I wonder how many tries it will take to get you to admit you're wrong, dead wrong, as wrong as you were about Felix not being his middle name or there being WMD's in Iraq.

    First off, my name outside of this BBS is Jason. And I am a Jew. Proof positive that whenever you call someone whose name is Jason "Jason," you are an anti-Semite.

    Second, and more to the point, the people who were calling Allen by his full name were doing so months before anyone other than Allen or his mother had any idea he had Jewish roots.

    And, of course, you can't post one single link among the thousands of Dem references to "George Felix Allen" in which any Democrat, Webb fan or Allen opponent discusses the relative Jewishness of the name Felix. I am sure you could post links from whatever nutjob site convinced you his middle name wasn't Felix, but those sites where you learn all these wonderful things are about half as reliable as hoopsworld -- as you recently learned to the tune of an embarassment so emasculating you felt compelled to tell us all that your wife still likes to **** you.
     
  13. SamFisher

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    Good for you! I bet the brilliant Webb campaign realized how well known Felix Mendelsson is in the Tidewater area of Virginia and really capitalized on those anti-semitic feelings! I'm telling you bro, you walk down a street in Hampton, VA and if you're humming "Scottish Symphony", you might as well run around with a yarmulke and a tub of gefelte! Talk about a dead giveaway- WOW!

    Hey, can anybody remember that old TV show, starring the hot chick Keri Russel as an NYU student?

    What was it called? Wasn't it called "Jewicity" Oh, wait, Felicity - sometimes I get confused!!!!!. Oy vay!

    Latin Baby names: Felix Male Latin Happy and prosperous.
    http://www.babynamenetwork.com/baby_names/origin.cfm?origin=Latin&start_row=199

    Hebrew baby names: (felix not listed)
    http://www.babynamenetwork.com/baby_names/origins/Hebrew_baby_names.cfm

    Yiddish baby names: (felix not listed)
    http://www.babynamenetwork.com/baby_names/origins/Yiddish_baby_names.cfm

    Thanks for posting the wikipedia entry which details Allen's self-loathing anti-semitism though! That certainly did help him much, did it?
     
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  14. SamFisher

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    Possible first names for my kids that set off basso's Jew-dar:

    Jesus Christ Fisher (only like the most well known jew ever)

    Demetrius Fisher (reminds me of Demetri Shostakovich, a well known jew-o-phile)

    Mel Gibson Fisher (There are lots of jewish lawyers named Mel)

    Juwan Fisher (he even lived in Miami for a while)

    Sam Felix Fisher Junior (sam? Felix? It's jew x 2)

    Junichiro Koizumi Fisher (another gimme)

    Obi Wan Fisher (doesn't sound too jewish - till you shorten it to "Ben", might as well just call him Bibi Netanyahu Fisher)
     
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  15. basso

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    thanks you bats, and sam, i had originally thought the whole BalaCk Hussein Osama thing was just an idiotic sideshow, but i can see i was wrong. but thanks to you, i now understand that it's the single most important issue of his nascent campaign. therefore, i shall never again refer to mr. BalaCk Hussein Osama in other other fashion than by his full, correct name, BalaCk Hussein Osama. BalaCk Hussein Osama rocks, i can't wait to see how the campaign unfolds for BalaCk Hussein Osama. i may yet vote for BalaCk Hussein Osama, i am undecided, but i promise to keep an open mind about BalaCk Hussein Osama. BalaCk Hussein Osama-bama-mama!
     
  16. Batman Jones

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    Nice response, basso.

    Wrong about Felix being his middle name.

    Hilariously wrong about it being an anti-Semitic slur.

    And wrong on every aspect of the Iraq war.

    "But... but... my wife still ****s me and you guys just jerk off all the time! Er... Um... Screw you guys! I'm going home!"
     
  17. rhadamanthus

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    Peter Griffin:
    Nothing else has worked so far
    So I'll wish upon a star
    Wonderous shining speck of light
    I need a Jew

    Lois makes me take the rap
    Cause our checkbook looks like crap
    Since I can't give her a slap
    I need a Jew

    Where to find
    A Baum or Steen or Stein
    To teach me how to whine and do
    my taaaaaxesss...

    Though by many they're abhored
    Hebrew people I've adored
    Even though they killed my Lord
    I need a Jew

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    Hi, my name's Max Weinstein,
    my car just broke down,
    can I use you phone?

    Peter:
    Now my troubles are all through
    I have a Jew!

    Max:
    Hey!
     
  18. SamFisher

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    Nobody said it was an important issue. Making you look silly however is of the utmost importance.
     
  19. thegary

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  20. Colt45

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    How did "Life Support" work out for you and current burger-flipper, Orlando Sanchez?
     

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