you've compared iraq to vietnam in multiple posts, so forgive me if i thought your point was to equate the two. if you'd care to recast your argument w/o the gratuitous vietnam reference, i'd be happy to respond...assuming, that is, you can type w/ deckard's head in your lap.
Being a b**** doesn't become you. What? is it that time of the month? Or is your wife not ****ing you enough these days?
setting up ground rules for your willingness to debate? We should all desire your input so much that we acquiesse to whatever bizzare stipulations you put on the debate? So you won't debate unless the discussion contains zero vietnam/Iraq comparisons, but you are allowed to make WWII/Iraq comparisons? You are delusional, and have an over-inflated sense of value as to your worth on these boards.
I wasn't going to comment on basso's bad mood, but I just had a lol moment when after reading his comments again, I looked at the thread title. In a thread called 'fellow bbs members! we cannot escape history' it is inappropriate to talk about historical comparisons? Again, my argument never was that Iraq is equal to Vietnam, but if it were basso's vociferous objections would be mildly ironic, given the name he chose for this thread.
I think the irony would be lost on the focus group that approved basso's title, outline, and abstract before he made his post here.
That's true, but you must understand that if we want to debate the great basso, then you have to agree to certain non-sensical terms, or he won't deign to discuss with you. You have broken term # 104 section D pragraph 3
actually, this part was sincere: [rquoter]...if you'd care to recast your argument w/o the gratuitous vietnam reference, i'd be happy to respond.[/rquoter]
I told him Section 104. part D. You know and I know we should all bow to your conditions in order to have the priviledge of discussing a matter with the great basso, but apparently Ottomaton just doesn't get it, yet.
It may be sincere, but I think that unless you go back and edit out your Churchill, Soviet, and Afghanistan references think it would be fundimentally inappropriate for me to consider altering my arguments to fit conditions that you yourself don't follow. If I can read through your quotes on those subjects without becomming confused I don't think there is a good reason why you can not do the same for me.
i meant i didn't understand what your arguement was. if it's not to equate iraq w/ vietnam, what were you trying to say? sincerely- i don't know, so i don't know how to answer.
Despite this rather homophobic post on your part (I have my head in his lap why?), I'll repost Ottomaton's comments. Perhaps if you read them slowly, in a larger type, it will help your comprehension. "I would suggest that the main reason why one is a success and the other is a failure is that WWII is still often referred to in Russia as 'The Great Patriotic War' defending the 'Rodina', or motherland while Afghanistan was only slightly viewed as a war in defense of the USSR's interests (propping up the pro-Soviet government), and more of a foreign policy adventure which sucked resources out of proportion to national interests. The same holds true in the American public perception for Vietnam. Keep in mind that the Administrations at the time were trying to portray the war as the most important front of the Cold War for defense against Soviet Communist expansion, when that was not the end result of our 'loss' at all. We pulled out, Vietnam became their own state, and eventually Big Ronald Reagan redirected the resources to more effective fronts in winning the cold war. We would never have out spent the Russians as we did if we were still throwing lives and money in Vietnam for another 10 years. I would say that most people currently view Iraq as a diversion from the War on Terror which is our defense of the motherland. I'm sure you probably don't view it that way, but many do. Personally, I think we need to pull back and refocus our efforts in the War on Terror. I'm sure others feel the same way." ~ Ottomaton Now basso, do you "get it?" D&D. And what did you hear, my blue-eyed son? And what did you hear, my darling young one? I heard the sound of a thunder, it roared out a warnin', Heard the roar of a wave that could drown the whole world, Heard one hundred drummers whose hands were a-blazin', Heard ten thousand whisperin' and nobody listenin', Heard one person starve, I heard many people laughin', Heard the song of a poet who died in the gutter, Heard the sound of a clown who cried in the alley, And it's a hard, and it's a hard, it's a hard, it's a hard, And it's a hard rain's a-gonna fall.
you apparently are equating homophobic w/ homoerotic...on the right, one doesn't usually see the sort of adulation heaped on another poster as you have repeatedly in this thread...not that there's anything wrong w/ that.
