1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Misguided Expectations

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Jeff, Nov 15, 2012.

  1. Jeff

    Jeff Clutch Crew

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 1999
    Messages:
    22,412
    Likes Received:
    361
    I've been lurking and reading how Jeremy Lin sucks and Toney Douglas sucks and Terrance Jones doesn't get enough playing time and the coaching is awful and Patterson is soft and on and on. Here's what I'm wondering...

    What exactly did you expect from the youngest team in the NBA? Youth brings a lot of positive things: energy, excitement, promise. It also brings a lot of negative things: dumb mistakes, inconsistency, inexperience.

    We aren't going to know who most of these players are -- outside probably of Harden -- be even the end of this year. It will probably be late into next season before we have enough data to make any calls. For you Texans fans, how many of you honestly thought Kareem Jackson would go from what some believed was the worst DB in the history of the NFL to a more than competent starter? Raise your hands.

    I'm not saying watching the team and its players struggle is fun. It's not. But this is what SO MANY OF YOU ASKED FOR! Just as no one goes to Minute Maid despite every fan online, on the radio and in person BEGGING the Astros to ditch the old players and start over. They did. They suck. Somehow, everyone is SHOCKED.

    That's just how it goes. The Rockets did what everyone wanted. They started COMPLETELY over from scratch. You have your team filled with youth and promise. Now, you get to watch as it struggles like crazy. No coach or new GM or special diet or training regimen is going to fix any of this. Only time will, for the better or the worse.

    All we have right now is hope and frustration. Better get used to it.
     
    16 people like this.
  2. tofu--

    tofu-- Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2008
    Messages:
    3,153
    Likes Received:
    79
    Wait wait wait...

    Are you saying Toney Douglas DOESN'T suck?
     
  3. Akim523

    Akim523 Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2008
    Messages:
    3,733
    Likes Received:
    162
    Well said.

    This is exactly what I was wondering, what did you expect?
    We have the youngest team in the NBA with tremendous upside and our record isnt really that bad, why a lot of people sound like the sky is falling after every single game?

    I just dont understand.
     
  4. ch0c0b0fr34k

    ch0c0b0fr34k Member

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2008
    Messages:
    3,045
    Likes Received:
    80
    There were quite a lot of people here expecting playoffs, lol. Especially after the Harden trade.
     
  5. Naija Texan

    Naija Texan Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2009
    Messages:
    3,043
    Likes Received:
    55
    I mainly have issues with the coaching staff, the players are playing within my expectations, if not exceeding them in some cases.
     
  6. CDrex

    CDrex Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2009
    Messages:
    5,988
    Likes Received:
    1,460
    True. You've got to love Clutchfans, where for 3 years no one would shut up about how we should be losing instead of winning, and now everyone's venting their spleens about how much we suck.

    The Rockets have a young team, cap space, and a good outlook going forward. This is how rebuilding works, just because we skipped the "draft franchise guy" step doesn't mean the rest of the build is automatically done.
     
  7. phantoman

    phantoman Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2007
    Messages:
    1,546
    Likes Received:
    273
    some board members are a bunch of floppers, everyone is a critic but when things actually happen the way they want it to. They always got some commentary.... can never win can ya...
     
  8. NotInMyHouse

    NotInMyHouse Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2008
    Messages:
    3,644
    Likes Received:
    1,022
    ClutchFans: Never Satisfied.
     
  9. prs325

    prs325 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2002
    Messages:
    1,104
    Likes Received:
    584
    I knew were gonna suck and i expected that. The only problem i have is if were gonna suck this bad, lets suck in a way where we are actually playing the rookies, let them develop and experience the growing pains. Since were not doing anything this year we might as well get that high lotto to add to the collection of youth that we have.

    The other thing is, aa young as we are, we are probably the only team that does not start or play any of our rooks.
     
  10. Jeff

    Jeff Clutch Crew

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 1999
    Messages:
    22,412
    Likes Received:
    361
    And you think this has nothing to do with the coaches? Interesting.
     
  11. Rockets2K

    Rockets2K Clutch Crew

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2000
    Messages:
    18,050
    Likes Received:
    1,270
    Thing is, most of the loudest complainers weren't here previouisly to see all the tank vs no-tank discussions, they dont realize that most of us where expecting a crap season this year. Adding one guy who they want to build around doesnt change that.

    Harden is good, but he aint *that* good...and until Lin proves that last season wasn't a fluke, he can't be considered a player that would change a lotto team into a contender.

    Jeff, your takes are sorely missed here.
     
  12. studogg

    studogg Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2002
    Messages:
    5,953
    Likes Received:
    2,497
    I expected 82 wins.

    Fire everyone. Expecially Communistcast
     
    1 person likes this.
  13. AroundTheWorld

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2000
    Messages:
    66,670
    Likes Received:
    44,389
    Great thread. I agree that people need to chill out.

    Patterson is still soft, though, and Douglas is still not a very good player :p.
     
  14. OlajuwonFan81

    OlajuwonFan81 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2008
    Messages:
    2,671
    Likes Received:
    186
    I think most of us are disappointed because we saw the first 2 games and how this team played. When you come home and lose to some mediocre teams it can frustrate you. Besides that the way Lin is playing relative to Dragic and Lowry has nothing to do with our youth or coaching. It was an absolutely awful move to let Goran go for nothing to the Suns and sign lin for more money per year. This is what is frustrating.......not the win loss record.
     
  15. duluth111222

    duluth111222 I.D.I.O.T

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2006
    Messages:
    3,301
    Likes Received:
    3,017
    so, this couldn't go into one of those other threads how???


    sorry, just have to do it... :)
     
  16. wfeebs

    wfeebs Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2012
    Messages:
    1,019
    Likes Received:
    90
    We are in a different situation than anybody else. Veterans aren't stopping the rooks from playing, its other young guys that need to develop too! This idea to play the rookies is stupid, as long as our best young players are playing and developing that's all that should matter. Our starting lineup experience is a bunch of 2nd year and 3rd year players. We should stop their development to develop others? Doesn't make sense to me.
     
  17. MrButtocks

    MrButtocks Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2005
    Messages:
    7,231
    Likes Received:
    5,115
    We've got a better record than the Lakers and are tied with the Nuggets, two teams which are built to win. Our offense looks horrible, but our defense looks great and the coaching staff and players deserve props for that. McHale and Sampson can't wave their magic wands and turn us into the Miami Heat. I'm impressed with our record considering our talent.
     
  18. Akim523

    Akim523 Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2008
    Messages:
    3,733
    Likes Received:
    162
    Because it's posted by a reputable member of clutchfans with good content and reason, and it's not overlapping with current on-going discussions on other topics.

    Nice try.
     
  19. Rip Van Rocket

    Rip Van Rocket Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    7,152
    Likes Received:
    356
    I've been saying that we need this season just to figure out what we have. We have so many young and unproven players that it's going to take a while just to sort everything out. Morris, Patterson, and Smith appear to be getting their chance to show what they can do, maybe by the second half of the season we can start seeing what the rookies have to offer. I view this entire season as one big long training camp. I'm not too concerned about wins and losses, I just want the Rockets to have a good idea about who they need to keep, trade, or cut by the end of the season.
     
  20. jscmedia

    jscmedia Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 1999
    Messages:
    3,030
    Likes Received:
    279
    I think playoffs is a reasonable expectation, and I expect that the Rockets WILL be in the playoffs.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now