Official 2013 Budget/Debt Limit/Obamacare Crisis Thread

Boehner doesn't have the balls to do it.

 

because I have a different opinion than you? Try to be open minded -- remove the horse blinders.

and to answer your question, absolutely not -- I'm not a robot, but rather a truth merchant.

 

So your truth can be bought.

got it

 

by what? Obamacare, Obama phones and a huge expansion of food stamps? Maybe amnesty for illegals?

nope

 

You can sense bigtexxx's worry thought the internets. His party is ready to implode itself in their pursuit of destroying Obama and they're ready to burn it all down to do it. Crazyville on full display for the world to see.

 

I don't know of a single person, not even one, who sees "no fault in Obama." However, anyone who claims that Obama is as much at fault as the Republicans with regards to the shutdown or the debt ceiling is exactly like you: delusional beyond belief.

 

No.

I don't even know what your opinions are to be honest. You contradict yourself frequently and I really have no idea where you are on issues, other than just a contrarian.

You just post like you are operating on a series of if-statements.
-if bad news, then repeat + statement "Obama is a terrible leader" + statement "shameful"
-if good news, then default derogatory statement regarding separate issue.
-if logic breakdown, then default statement about personal insults in arguments
-if logic breakdown x2, then generic statement re dominating thoughts and emotions
-if logic breakdown x3, cease posting for set time, then restart cycle.

 

Let me stop you right there and point out your problem: the definition of "good news" and "bad news". You are allowing the media to define this for you. The media has a strong liberal bias.

 

No, it is the facts which have a strong liberal bias.

 

media does not equal facts. Don't let yourself be that impressionable. Think for yourself.

 

What are your top 2 or 3 sources you get "facts" from?

 

EXPOSED

:grin:

 

I take a balanced approach. Some sources on the left, some on the right, some international perspectives. Always recognizing the every one has a bias.

 

So the media?

You are quick to assume many posters only use one outlet.

 

it's hardly an assumption when you see all the links around here to talkingpointsmemo, Huffpo, DailyKos, etc.

 

Just like many right leaning outlets.

I don't blame people for posting things on either side they agree with and it still gives you no evidence a balanced approach wasn't used, just that after analysis they chose a different opinion than you did.

 

objectively the Republican's are screwed for the next few election cycles if the economy tanks due to us defaulting

 

So speaking of bias.

Has Obama done anything you approve of?
Did Reagan do anything you did not approve of?

 

Well, two new pieces of news:

1. Senate has suspended negotiations awaiting the House (which is dumb)
2. House is considering making their bill MORE ridiculous to secure votes, pass it, and then leave town.

Neither of these really fit with my vision of what was doing down, so now who knows what the end game is here. Boehner just seems to be making his own surrender more difficult, and I can't see the point of it all unless he really believes he's going to win somehow.

 

I think this is where we are in the program now.