If the Rockets can't improve and need to rebuild, how should the team go about it?

3.

Realistically, Rockets will likely 1. Stay the course and keep battlefightin'.

 

Hard tank. A lot of people will act like it's the end of the world if they let Dragic walk and gut the team, but it's for the better in the long run. I would've been happier these past 3 years if they tanked like hell instead of filling us with false hopes.

 

i dont even come to the rockets part of the forum much anymore. my interest in the rockets is the lowest its been since i started watching and following them in 1991.

its just not fun watching them in this state. with steve francis and mobley at least you had hope for something. this team is in stasis and management are cowards to do anything about it. how many more years with zero direction do we have coming up? sad and pathetic.

 

I really don't know what to do.

It's difficult to bring myself to join the tank brigade, although there is a good deal of logic behind it. It probably should have been done a while back.

As far as horrible basketball, I don't know what could leave one with a worse taste in his mouth than going losing six in a row to drive ourselves right out of the playoffs.

 

I know Ive gone on a tangent on almost every one of these threads but before we go off on the "tanking" direction lets just remember what you mean by tanking


Tanking = literally having a front office/ owner/ & most importantly... A coach who is on board with theoretically "kicking the ball out of bounds"

This is rarer than you might think. Coaches usually do not want their name tied to a loosing record, and will still try and win games even if the from office strip away quality players for the purpose of going young or whatever. The players are all fighting to get that next contract, make alot of money, and prove something to the world.

In the Rockets case, there is no way they EVER theoretically "Kick the Ball out of Bounds." They will not loose games on purpose. This does not happen unless you get a coach and set of older players who simply do not care about their careers at that point enough to try and put the ball in the hole and play half A#$ defense.


What is the only viable option for the Rockets?? - trade away Scola and Martin for as little as you can get back salary wise, Waive or trade Dalembert, and do not resign Camby.

What does that really Change???? - Lets face it. Trading Scola and Martin & renouncing Dalembert/Camby will make an impact in the win/loss collumn, but its not going to get the Rockets in the top 5 worse teams in the NBA. The Young players they are developing like Lowry, Dragic, Parsons, etc. are not going to be that bad.

So I ask the question.... Whats the point, and where is this realistically going????

You are not going to be bad enough to get Anthony Davis and you aren't going to be good enough to win the championship. Scola/Dalembert or no Scola/Dalembert.

My Opinion for what its worth-

In My opinion they need to give it one more year to try and develop some guys like Parsons/Motiejunas/ Dragic (if resigned) & co. and sprinkle in a vet like Scola to help with the development and execution of the young guys, and the end goal should be to construct a trade similar to the Gasol deal where you can bring in not necessarily a Superstar, but a player you can consider a foundation piece. Then try and build a team in the mold of the 2007 Boston Celtics.

This HAS TO be the ultimate goal of the front office this offseason going into next year. Its really the only option they have unless they want to keep developing some young players that make up a team that can grow together over the years and MIGHT makeup a playoff team with enough years together.

If you want to get that big draft pick next year its just not going to happen. Get over it.

If you are talking about the philosophy of the front office, "Stay the course" doesn't mean try to get the 8th seed in the playoffs and end up getting the 14th pick in the 2013 draft. It means keep on developing your young players while sprinkling in a vet or two until you can work a franchise altering trade that reshapes the foundation going forward.

Yes, I think they should "Stay the Course" for another year or two. They need to make a major move, but they cant do that move if they force their coach and players into loosing on purpose for a draft pick they might never get.

 

You know what. I don't really care until something actually happens that may propel us to a contending state. None of any of the options are appealing to me. Until the league stops the system of rewarding losers (and that's not gonna happen any time soon), I just don't care anymore.

 

Resign dragic and lee. Bring back camby on a reasonable contract. Trade Klow, and a pick to move up and grab sullinger and then grab the best available 2 with the other pick (lamb/rivers). You then have scola and martin to trade for a veteran pg.

Dragic, Vet pg
Lee, Lamb/rivers
parsons/morris
D-mo/patterson
Sullinger/Camby

This would be a competitive team with lots of players with upside. At this point you commit to the soft tank. Like Mchale said, improving from withon is never pretty but I would definitely have fun watching this team.

 

another of this threads?

 

Not only that, but letting Courtney Lee and Dragic walk. Trading Lowry as well, etc.

This is where we are at now. If they completely gut the team, they have a chance at franchise changing players in the draft.

 

We need to do whatever it takes to get a top 5 pick. We need a franchise cornerstone. If we get one of those, Morey can build around him and be back in contention within 3 years.

I say we trade everyone except Morris and Parsons for 1st round draft picks and build a team out of rookies.

We gotta keep Dragic, though. He could be an asset to be traded for yet another 1st round pick.

Then we use our capspace to take on a huge contract(i.e. Blatche, Okafor, Biedrins, Villanueva) to get more picks. We could eat those contracts since we won't be contending during the duration of their contract.

 

I suggested this before .. so yeah... if we could gut half of the team and its veterans, we can develop new players and have new hope by watching them grow

 

tanking in itself is a crap shoot...
I mean are John Wall or Kyrie Irving a significant upgrade over what we already have at the PG position?

all of our major targets over the past few seasons have been bigs (unless you considered the Melo discussions serious)

Stoudemire, Bosh, Gasol, Nene, Cousins.
this summer we will be in pursuit of Dwight...again...

if you look at the landscape of the NBA you need a dominant big to be succesful. you have no choice but to go all-in for Howard this off-season.
if we don't get him we will probably engage LA for Gasol again.

I can't ever see Les going full-on tank. he and Daryl want a big to build our team around, and one way or another it is going to happen...eventually.

 

Oh we definitely need to tank hard... cause we will just have one bad season and then we will get the #1 or #2 pick and draft the next Shaq or Durant! They will be great and sign a forever long extension to stay in Houston. Then, all the other superstars will want to come to Houston to play with him and we'll win all of the championships!

.....lol...smh

 

As Rockets fans we should take the course of going on a strike at the Toyota center and demand Les to spend more money on better players if his plan is to "remain competetive".

Lately we've not been rebuilding were just swaping role players to keep us quiet as continue to maintain our hopes up. How long is this gona keep going on!?

 

my gift to you:
https://webfiles.uci.edu/lcoon/cbafaq/salarycap.htm#Q1

 

Thanks for your input. I guess we just just stay on track and keep on battlefightin'

Where have I heard that approach before?

 

Checkmate.