I don't care if he's all but done, I want Bob Sanders

Only if he'll signs on the cheap he can bring the leadership he DBs need.

 

he visited the jags today... who also have a crap secondary

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nfp-20110221_bob_sanders_visiting_the_jaguars

 

what were they thinking??

 

He's getting older, but he's not old at all. He's about to turn 30, and as a result of not playing much, he doesn't have nearly as much wear & tear as other players that age. I'd also be curious what his history of injuries is. I know this most recent one was a bicep tear - that's a fluky thing that's not really predictive of future results. But I don't know the others. Broken bones are fluky. Constant muscle and ligament leg issues are a problem.

Nonsense. Traman Williams slipped through the cracks because the Texans, like 30 other teams, didn't see anything in him to suggest he was going anywhere. Who are all the Bob Sanders type people the Texans were investing in back in 2006 that caused them to let Traman Williams go?

 

Bob Allen asked Rick Smith about going after Bob Sanders and Smith said that he's not sure yet and that all options are being explored.

 

"We'll pretend like we're interested in him, until someone signs him, and then we'll say, 'Awww Shucks!'."

 

Probably that their 28th ranked pass defense could use some help, even if it is from Glass Joe.

As for the Texans 32nd ranked pass defense, no worries, they're on the right track.

 

If Sanders can play for the Texans for 2 games at his usual level, I'd give him $3 mil. Why not? He represents a monumental upgrade over anyone we have or have had at safety.

Like I said, if he gets us even ONE EXTRA WIN, he'd be a great signing. In football, there are only 16 games. And our secondary sucks at a level that words cannot fully describe. I don't care that he can't stay healthy for the whole season. He plays 2-6 games before his usual season-ending injury, and that could easily propel us to the playoffs. May have trouble staying there given that he's injured, but it's still much more than some young ST contributor can give us.

 

That is almost, word for word, the exact same rationale used when they signed Ahman Green. Bob Sanders is done. He is a waste of valuable resources.

Ron Dayne. Eric Moulds. Mike Flannigan. Dexter McCleon. When you start wasting roster space on broke-down, past-their-prime guys you hope to wring one more year out of (less tread on their tires!), you very often do it at the expense of young guys like Tramon Williams. It's fools gold. There is absolutely, positvely nothing to suggest Bob Sanders will be able to contribute to the 2011 Texans.

You're more than welcome to pretend 30 isn't old for an oft-injured, undersized safety who's stock and trade is hitting people really hard, and that 5 truncated-by-injury seasons out of 7 isn't a trend but a confluence of random flukes & bad luck, and that it means absolutely nothing that one of the league's best organizations decided to cut ties with the well-rested, primed for a rebound season Sanders. But I sure as heck-fire hope the Texans don't fall for it.

 

How's this for a radical approach: Why not actually go out and get a guy who can play and contribute NOW and not gamble on a guy who can't stay healthy. Call me quaint but I happen to place a higher value on a player who can actually contribute on the field over one who has the potential of playing sometimes.

Now, I realize this means that folks here won't be able to load up this forum with volumes of posts that start with "When Sanders Gets Healthy..." or "Things Would Be Different If Sanders Hadn't Gotten Hurt" (also known as the Yao Ming excuse) but you can get a boatload of these types of posts over at the GARM. He once was a great player and all but the Texans really aren't in a position to roll any more dice - they have to go for sure things. And for BottomLine Bob, Rick, Wade & Boobiak, that means pulling their collective heads out of each other's assess and doing some serious hard work at finding players who can turn this thing around now because the clock is ticking.

 

Here's a radical approach: how about we sign somebody better than what we have, regardless of anything else?

If Bob Sanders is willing to come here for reasonable money, we shouldn't scoff at that in favor of chasing a rainbow that may inevitably sign somewhere else.

 

Assuming everything you posted is true, do you not see the utter breakdown in your logic? If Bob Sanders is a "monumental upgrade" and worth "ONE EXTRA WIN"... aren't his contributions 100% negated by having a vastly inferior replacement taking his spot for the remaning 10-14 weeks? How many losses is that worth? One? Two? Five?

The Texans are better off finding the next *healthy* Bob Sanders rather than investing in the broke-down, aging one currently on the market. He hasn't been a difference-maker in 4 years, which is also the last time he was fully healthy.

Bob Sanders is a myth, man.

 

assuming the front office is going to go for one of the top-tier db free agents (and i know that's a scary assumption), i'd much rather them go after those players instead of settling on injury-prone players just because they're better than what is on the roster currently. don't settle just because your target may go somewhere else. that's how a franchise continues its irrelevancy.

 

It's not settling.

If you have someone whom you think can help you for a reasonable pricetag, you do it.

Signing Bob Sanders does not preclude you from signing someone else, and if it does, then you probably shouldn't even bother, because his pricetag would be obviously too high if that were the case.

 

I'm not sure what you're talking about.

Using Madden terms, the Texans have always entered the seasons with 60-70 rated safeties. Replace one of them with Sanders, with rating of 90+, for 2 games. And then go back to 60ish rated safeties for the other 14 games, and you think that's a bad deal!? How?

We haven't even found a non-healthy/not-nearly-Bob Sanders-level safety in our entire existence. Yet we'll find him next season?

The last time I checked, the Texans did not try to hire Pittsburg/GB/NE front office people.

 

am i still asleep or did i just see someone use madden ratings in an argument about real-life football?

 

meh................. come on, man - is this really tripping you up? With, ahem, 60-70-rated safeties, the Texans won 38% of their games last year. So even if we're being *extremely* kind and granting that broke-down Bob Sanders would lead the Texans to two victories in his only two games next year... the Texans would still finish 7-9. Tell me why 7 wins is better than 6 in the grand scheme of things?

They're much better off finding a *healthy* Bob Sanders-level talent who might actually be a season-long difference maker.

No, but one thing we have consistently found in our existence is broke-down, past-their-prime roster space eaters: Tony Boselli, Eric Moulds, Ron Dayne, Ahman Green...

I can't believe people are on board with Bob Sanders. He's a myth, guys. He's got nothing left to offer a team that needs definitive solutions, not hope-and-prayer solutions.

 

I'd rather take a chance on a myth than settle for a joke.