It is quite clear the Bosh is not coming to Houston

lol I played that same free agent slot on espn.com a couple weeks back also.. kept spinnin till the Rox logo was on Bosh didnt care where the other players landed

 

Why would any of you pick Houston over Chicago or Miami if you were Bosh? Please remember Yao is broken. Even the team says he may be limited to 25 mpg.

I know we all love the team and hope for the best, but it just defies logic for any of these dudes to pick us if they are serious about winning. It's easier to get paid and hook up with another star (Wade or LeBron) somewhere else.

 

Obviously this could change based on LeBron, but maybe because the Rockets were definitely better than Chicago and arguably better than Miami (West vs. East) in 2009-10, even with absolutely zero from Yao and the dead carcass of Tracy McGrady for 2/3 of the season?

 

lll believe and put my money on Morey's convinceability than all these baseless rumors.. i can start a rumor too, I heard from someone close to Bosh's thinking that he is a cross-dresser.. see how easily a rumor can be started?

 

Completely different situation. The Rockets' only option was trying to get Rashard for the MLE. Orlando was the only team with cap space to outright sign Rashard. If Orlando didn't make an offer to Lewis then he would have been looking at the MLE rather than the ridiculous deal that Orlando gave him. Lewis had recently mentioned that he'd still like to play in Houston, so why wouldn't the Rockets take a shot just in case Orlando changed it's mind?

With Bosh, the price is set. He's a max guy. No negotiation, he will get max money. The Rockets didn't miss out on any players because they pursued Rashard Lewis. This is the deepest FA class ever. If you go after the wrong guy this year then you could miss out on other players. Chasing a guy that you had no chance of acquiring would be foolish. Morey isn't a foolish guy. If he has no chance at Bosh, then he would be working on other scenarios rather than going after Bosh. Generally bright guys don't do foolish things.

 

I agree with your scenario. And definitely Morey is not one to do foolish things. But it doesn't mean Bosh has not changed his mind. His agent might have said Bosh is interested but since then maybe he's constantly talking to his friend lebron. And maybe Lebron is feeding him a story like, " come with me to Chicago. You'll be the scoring PF and I'll be the scoring wing. We'll have Noah at center, Rose at the point with Deng at the sf. We can't be beat!

There is no way to know for sure what these guys are really thinking. Even the agents may not be privy to all.

Bosh came out earlier saying he loved Miami and amy bewilling to sign out right with them for nothing. But that could also be a ploy to tell them take what Miami or Chicago is offering (not much because they don't have much) or else. If that is his true motive in that statement it would kind of rule out Houston because we do have assets to offer.

 

Does $30 million dollars matter to you? Does not completely screwing over the team that drafted you and their fans matter to you? It would to me. It might matter to Bosh.

 

I think Clutch nailed it when he made the call on Al Jefferson.

Not last year, but the year before, Al Jefferson was putting up 23-11-2 and was looking like a possible franchise type player. He had a bit of a down year last year, but he is working hard this summer and the second year after a knee surgery is always the best one. He is still young, can play the PF and C when need be, and gives us our deep go-to post option when Yao is out.


What I want to know is, did Daryl Morey have a hand in drafting him with the Celtics all those years ago?

(We need to start thinking of alternative plans, because Bosh, Paul, Lebron, etc...Are longshots...)

 

The greatest indication to me that we are still very much in the hunt for Bosh and/or other Free Agents is the fact that we didn't move up in the draft last week.

Morey himself is quoted as saying that he was given the opportunity to move up as late as 4pm draft day but that the price to move up was too great. To me that indicates he was unwilling to give up young players, expiring contacts and draft picks to move up. Why? Because he needs them for the Free Agent rush coming in July.

Why hold on to these "commodities" during the draft unless you feel you have an abolutely great chance to make a deal with someone.

I feel that something is brewing.....maybe something none of us expected.
Come on July 1st!!!

 

All of this false, it just false speculations, you never what might happens, James might stay in Cleveland.

 

More to the point, that $30 million bucks matters one hell of a lot to his agent, who would get a very nice cut of that. Millions, in fact. I would also point out, as it is my opinion, that whoever joins James is going to be playing with a human sponge, a sponge who will suck up the endorsement dollars nationally and in the team's market, leaving less for Bosh, who, were he to come to Houston, for example, would be the focus of the marketing campign of the Rockets, at least until Yao is back playing significant minutes and as his old, groovy self. Even then, he'd be a huge part of the Rockets' marketing campaign. A Yao who's mere presence insures a gigantic market for Bosh, it being a fact that those playing with Yao, even guys like Chuck Hayes, make big bucks in the Chinese market. Bosh's take would make a pirate blush.

 

In 2008-09, with entire defensives geared to stop him, Al Jefferson was for 5o games, probably the most dominant pivot in the league. I would love to see him get back to that with the Rockets.

For 50 games he better than Pau and Bynum. With Luis and Yao, we would wreck front lines...

 

I don't think the Rockets are out of it for the following reasons:

1) $30 million dollars left on the table if Bosh doesn't do a sign and trade.

2) Morey will aggressively go after him as his top guys and as we all know "Magic Morey" can talk just about anybody into anything, ie. the T-mac deal.

3) Bosh is from Texas within driving distance of his hometown. There is some comfort level there coming back home.

4) Not only would Bosh get $30 million more in a sign and trade, but Texas is one of the few states with zero personal state income tax. After being taxed to hell living and playing in Canada for years, this is another bonus with more money in his pocket.

5) The Chinese market and popularity would make Bosh an international superstar just playing besides Yao. More marketability ='s more money overall in endorsement deals in the US and in China.

Are the Rockets the favorites, definitely not. But there are a lot of attractive things that give Houston a fighting chance at pulling off a sign and trade.

 

Why would they come here? If I was a pro ball player, I want to stay in the east because a medicore record can get you in the playoffs. You need at least a 50 win team for the west and your west team would have to go through the best team in league just to get to the finals.

I rather face the best team in the finals, than get eliminated in the 1st round until Kobe retires.

 

Oh I agree that nobody knows for sure where these guys will end up. Outside of possibly Lebron, none of the other big names may know yet where they will end up.

While we don't know where they'll go, I believe that teams know where they won't even consider going. If Houston was a place the Bosh wouldn't consider, then I believe that they would have already know that and they wouldn't be pursuing Bosh any longer.

Truthfully, if a good enough deal comes along how can anyone blame Bosh for going to a good situation. From a Rockets perspective the best scenario is Lebron staying in Cleveland. The worst scenario is Wade, Lebron and Bosh trying to assemble a super team in Miami.

By no means do I mean to imply that Bosh is definitely coming here. I just think that we're still an option for him rather than having been already ruled out like so many think. All it means is that we are still in the hunt. Of course, we could still be a legitimate landing spot and end up his #2 choice which would suck.

 

something that is not talked about here

when a team has salary cap space(miami) they do NOT have to have assets for a sign and trade to equal salary like the rockets would have to

for instance, it is permitted by league rules,that miami can give toronto a 2nd round pick for bosh,and bosh gets his extra 30 million and toronto gets a pick out of it.

to make matters worse, toronto had traded a future 1st round pick to miami of allplaces, and that pick could be top 5 since bosh is leaving, im hearing that toronto would be getting that pick back and a tpe in exchange for bosh to miami

this is a done deal. an insider says wade has a special event planned on july 9th and has already passed out invitations. its bosh's welcome party

its to bad morey hasnt gotten the word yet. i do think henry thomas is using the rockets as a way to push a sign and trade to miami. we are pawns. morey is getting pawned. go after amare or al jefferson or granger

 

Bosh is overrated and he probably know that if he doesn't follow Lebron or another talent, he will become the new McGrady or Carter taking a MAX or near MAX contract and never living up to it.

I think Bosh being our primary target is a smoke screen and one fans are eating up, even thought Morey and most of the staff know it is unlikely to happen.


And why do people keep bringing up Al Jefferson, dude is great... WHEN HEALTHY... and he has missed as many games as Yao. Why would we trade anyone but Andersen for that walking gamble?

 

joe johnson should go to the mavs and dirk should resign and all they need to do is resign haywood and the mavs make it to the finals hands down

 

...and you should post in the mavs forum.

 

It does seem increasingly unlikely Bosh will sign with Houston, but the organization would be remiss not to try to lure him here anyway. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. The Rockets should appeal to his statements about wanting to be the top dog on whatever team he signs with (even though he has made contradictory statements). He's more likely to be the focal point of the offense in Houston with Yao and Martin than he would be on a team with Wade or LeBron, where he'd truly play second fiddle. They should also use the prospect of a sign-and-trade to their advantage. The Rockets should give it everything they've got to convince him to come to Houston, even though it's a longshot. At the same time, they should go hard after Jefferson. I think adding Jefferson to the mix of players they now have, assuming they wouldn't lose too much to get him, would elevate the team into championship contention.