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Feel the Dope: Majority finds US less respected now than under W

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  1. basso

    basso Member
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    The Obacalypse abides. i guess the Magical Apology Tour didn't produce the hoped for change. quite the opposite, in fact:

    [rquoter]Poll shows Obama, Dems losing ground

    Joseph Curl

    A majority of Americans say the United States is less respected in the world than it was two years ago and think President Obama and other Democrats fall short of Republicans on the issue of national security, a new poll finds.

    The Democracy Corps-Third Way survey released Monday finds that by a 10-point margin -- 51 percent to 41 percent -- Americans think the standing of the U.S. dropped during the first 13 months of Mr. Obama's presidency.

    "This is surprising, given the global acclaim and Nobel peace prize that flowed to the new president after he took office," said pollsters for the liberal-leaning organizations.

    On the national security front, a massive gap has emerged, with 50 percent of likely voters saying Republicans would likely do a better job than Democrats, a 14-point swing since May. Thirty-three percent favored Democrats.

    "The erosion since May is especially strong among women, and among independents, who now favor Republicans on this question by a 56 to 20 percent margin," the pollsters said in their findings.

    A May 2009 survey by the pollsters found the public saw the Democratic and Republican parties as equally able to handle national security (41 percent trusted Democrats more, and 43 percent trusted Republicans more.) On conducting the war on terrorism, the two parties were tied at 41 percent.

    The Democrats' gap on national security has widened on several other fronts:

    • "Keeping America safe": Democrats now trail by 13 points (34 percent to 47 percent.) The gap was just 5 points in July 2008.

    • "Ensuring a strong military": Democrats trail by 31 points (27 percent to 58 percent.)

    • "Making America safer from nuclear threats": Democrats trail by 11 points (34 percent to 45 percent,) "despite the president's strong actions and speeches on steps to reduce nuclear dangers," the pollsters said.

    The poll, conducted late last month, found "the administration's response to the Christmas Day terrorist attempt has contributed to the erosion."

    "While public polling showed that initial approval of Obama's response was above 50 percent, two months of Republican criticism have taken a toll. Now a narrow 46 to 42 percent plurality of likely voters say they feel less confident about the administration's handling of national security because of how it responded to the incident," the pollsters said.

    In addition, the detention of terrorist suspects and the Obama proposal to prosecute suspects in civil trials in New York City, which was later abandoned, also have taken a toll on the president's approval ratings.

    "Whereas a majority of the public approves of the job President Obama is doing in most aspects of national security, a 51 to 44 percent majority of likely voters disapproves of his efforts on the prosecution and interrogation of terrorism suspects," the pollsters found.

    Democracy Corps calls itself an independent, non-profit organization dedicated to making the government of the United States more responsive to the American people." It was founded in 1999 by former Clinton adviser James Carville and Stanley Greenberg, a leading Democratic pollster.

    Third Way calls itself "the leading moderate think-tank of the progressive movement."[/rquoter]
     
    #1 basso, Mar 9, 2010
  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    the only dope is the dumbass who can't read the first page of a forum
     
    #2 pgabriel, Mar 9, 2010
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  3. GladiatoRowdy

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    Inability to read the forums before posting an exact duplication of another article =

    [​IMG]
     
    #3 GladiatoRowdy, Mar 9, 2010
  4. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    When did fear equate to respect? Wow, this country gets dumber and dumber every year.
     
    #4 Pizza_Da_Hut, Mar 9, 2010
  5. basso

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    fear of what, exactly?
     
    #5 basso, Mar 9, 2010
  6. DcProWLer277

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    Seems like you have too much free time on your hands...Basso acting like a b**** is nothing new. You fail again.
     
    #6 DcProWLer277, Mar 9, 2010
  7. DcProWLer277

    DcProWLer277 Rookie

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    Then you log off quickly to avoid the masses, lol.
     
    #7 DcProWLer277, Mar 9, 2010
  8. Qball

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    basso, please go learn how to read lol
     
    #8 Qball, Mar 9, 2010
  9. dmc89

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    Mojoman's thread "U.S. has Lost Global Standing Under Obama"

    Your thread "Feel the Dope: Majority finds US less respected now than under W"

    2 hour difference, his thread was in the top 5 when you posted. See any relationship between the two?
     
    #9 dmc89, Mar 9, 2010
  10. Codman

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    Basso, do you work?

    You should be paid for all this garbage you post in here. Apply with Glenn Beck ASAP.
     
    #10 Codman, Mar 9, 2010
  11. Granville

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    Obama should have been awarded a Noble Puss Prize....
     
    #11 Granville, Mar 10, 2010
  12. Ubiquitin

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    Firm Hand Shake!
     
    #12 Ubiquitin, Mar 10, 2010
  13. vlaurelio

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    you replace Peace with Puss

    LOL that's so funny and smart you got me rolling on the floor
     
    #13 vlaurelio, Mar 10, 2010
  14. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I think this poll shows Americans are unhappy with the direction Obama is taking us.

    The strategic mistake Obama has made is thinking health care mattered to most Americans. Problem is that most Americans falsely belief they are more covered than they really are. Obama didn't make the case that health care needed reform - he didn't make it about the average American's self interest.

    If Obama first just focused on the economy and selling health care reform instead of legislating it he would have won.

    By focusing on the economy he would have been in tune with America, and by selling health care before getting it to congress he could have built momentum without engaging Republican attacks since there would be no bill or policy to attack.

    Imagine if Obama just spent time building the case that hey - x% of Americans find out that when they have a serious condition they out of pocket costs significantly put them into debt. How would the Republicans counter that? They can't.

    Obama blew it.
     
    #14 Sweet Lou 4 2, Mar 10, 2010
  15. SamFisher

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    I think this response shows that you have the same inability to read the first page of the forum as basso, as previously noted.
     
    #15 SamFisher, Mar 10, 2010
  16. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I don't know what your point is.

    But I do know that it's American's Perception that matters most - not the rest of the world's. Americans are the ones who vote...if they think we're weaker on various issues like national security then that's what matters. If they say our standing is lower even if it's higher - it's what matters.

    This isn't about policy, it's about leadership and the fact the country isn't buying into it on at least national security issues. But I think the degrade is more related to overall competence in leadership that policy.
     
    #16 Sweet Lou 4 2, Mar 11, 2010
  17. SamFisher

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    That you did not take the 5-10 seconds required to peruse either (1) the first page of the forum which contains an older, redundant thread or (2) the first page of this thread, in which you chose to post, that immediately notes (1), in repeated fashion, as was noted in the post you chose to quote.

    Accordingly - nobody is going to take the time to respond to your hypothesis, other than in pure mockery.
     
    #17 SamFisher, Mar 11, 2010
  18. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    So because I didn't look at the threads in the forum and decide which one was the right one to post in and which not, or read through other responses before stating my opinion you have an issue with that?

    I didn't realize I was obligated to read through anything before posting a response to an OP
     
    #18 Sweet Lou 4 2, Mar 11, 2010
  19. Granville

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    Little Sammy, just because you and your buddies give each other rep-a-rounds and engage in ticklefights in every thread with each other and somehow think the stupid comments that you guys make somehow become fact. McMark posted an old poll as proof as how American feel today in response to a poll from March 2010 on the same subject. Face it, the inexperience and arrgoance of Obama is causing many Americans to lose confidence in him.

    Who cares if there was another thread on the same subject? That doesn't change the fact that Americans are losing confidence in Obama.
     
    #19 Granville, Mar 11, 2010
  20. Granville

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    You have to excuse Sam, his alleged standing in this forum is all he has in life.
     
    #20 Granville, Mar 11, 2010
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