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Won and Done

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Feb 12, 2010.

  1. basso

    basso Member
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    VDH, via the corner, nails it, highlighting the principle reason that The One will soon enough become The Once. it's not just the arrogance, the condescension, the outsourcing of his signature domestic agenda item to Pelosi/Reid, nor the the epic spending spree. it's the way he has so shamelessly, switched tacks, adopting positions that are polar opposite to those he ran on, in the latest example yesterday trying to claim credit for victory in Iraq.

    half of the country knows this is bull****, and the other half could never admit there is such a thing as victory: this is a president that truly believes not just in his own intellectual superiority, but that the whole country is just too stupid to notice.

    [rquoter]The Truth Is a Precious Commodity

    The problem with Obama’s new hedging on taxing those who make below $250,000, or his administration’s taking credit for victory in the Iraq War that they so once fervently tried to abort, or the flip-flop on renditions and tribunals, or the embarrassments over closing Guantanamo and trying KSM in New York or Mirandizing the Christmas Day bomber, or trashing/praising Wall Street grandees, is not that presidents cannot change their minds as circumstances warrant, or even that all politicians are at times hypocritical. No, the rub is that Obama is not merely flipping and triangulating on issues in a desperate attempt to shadow the polls, but he is doing so on matters that he once swore were absolutely central to his entire candidacy and his signature hope-and-change agenda, critical to the future of the U.S., and proof of his opponents’ either ignorance or disingenuousness.

    Serially he once screamed about taxing only the wealthy and airing health care on C-SPAN. He advocated taking out all combat troops from Iraq by March 2008 and asserted the surge was failing — at a critical time when our soldiers were in a life-and-death struggle to make it work. Obama built an entire narrative about Bush the Constitution Shredder who presided over Guantanamo and renditions. There was no place in his promised new politics for lobbyists and Chicago tactics. After a single year of governance, there is now scarcely a single issue that Obama & Co. have not backtracked on, flip-flopped, redefined, or quietly dropped — mostly matters that were once demagogued to score political points. At some point — I think it was around mid-January — the public collectively shrugged and concluded of Obama, “I don’t trust anything that this guy says.” And when that happens in American politics, it is almost impossible to restore any modicum of credibility. All we are left with now is three more years of the president’s “Bush did it” mantra and a buffoonish Robert Gibbs, like some strutting carnival barker, showing off ink on his palm to a bored press corps.[/rquoter]
     
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  2. Landlord Landry

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    don't care. did not read.
     
  3. SamFisher

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    TL,DR
     
  4. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    poor Basso
     
  5. Rocketman1981

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    My favorite presidents are the ones that get nothing done!

    Usually its because the other party controls the legislative branch, but i'll take what i can get.

    When Bush and the repubs had control the got all kinds of crap passed that just created more government crap that has to keep getting funded.

    Hip hip hooray for getting nothing done!
     
  6. Qball

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    How does basso have 2 green dots and not a red won?
     
  7. Batman Jones

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    Easy. MojoMan has multiple accounts.
     
  8. basso

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    fascinating, last night and today, so much curiosity about my rep.
     
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  9. MojoMan

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    Hey! Whatever ever happened to Trader_Jorge!
     
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  10. Batman Jones

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    The thing is, everybody thinks you're a dumbass. So it's really weird that you have rep points.
     
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  11. Depressio

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    The country is too stupid to notice what he's trying to do. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

    On the majority, Americans are idiots. The majority of conservatives are idiots. The majority of liberals are idiots. The majority of moderates are idiots. If you can't see this, well... maybe you're just more optimistic than I am.

    Hopefully I get to move to Vancouver or somewhere in a few years.
     
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  12. JusBleezy

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    Heh, basso threads.
     
  13. basso

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    evidently "everybody" does not include everyone.
     
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  14. Batman Jones

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    Nope. MojoMan(s) thinks you're awesome.
     
  15. MojoMan

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    He has had made some pretty good posts, especially when measured next to the hysterical temper tantrums and name calling that makes up so much of the "debate and discussion" coming from the left here in this forum.
     
  16. Batman Jones

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    Mojo(s) and basso sittin in a tree...
     
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    well now that is mature isnt it? I think last time I heard that was in Kindergarden. You may not agree with basso or mojo but the name calling is very childish.
     
  18. FranchiseBlade

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    Some of basso's posts are so hilarious, I've repped him. I really have. Not often, but it's been done. Or at least I think I did. Maybe I just meant to do it and forgot. I can't remember.
     
  19. Batman Jones

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    It's called "knowing your audience."
     
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