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Daiz vs. Malignaggi

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by wesnesked, Aug 23, 2009.

  1. Carl Herrera

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    Atlantic City would likely have a very large and very guido pro-Paulie crowd.
     
  2. da1

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    www.savaresepromotions.com
     
  3. bladeage

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    It isn't likely to happen though. The Diaz camp has been talking about possibly making a fight with Hatton or another Jr.WW.

    The only way a rematch would happen is if they are pretty much forced into it. Like if another Jr.WW they are targeting wants to fight someone else and maybe Hatton doesn't want to fight Diaz.

    Diaz would have to settle for a rematch with Paulie, which he doesn't want. Diaz is after the big dogs of the divisions. He also will not get a rematch against Marquez, which he also wants. Even if Marquez loses and defends his LW title against the winner of Katsidis/Escobedo, it isn't likely Diaz would get the rematch even at LW.

    Diaz is the odd man out, no one is targeting him right now.
    There is still competition at LW. Diaz could fight Edwin Valero, Paulus Moses, or Miguel Acosta. All legit opponents. But like I said, Diaz wants the big dogs of the divisions, which is understandable. He just doesn't have the power to beat a legit Jr.WW.
     
  4. BrooksBall

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    I watched the fight a few days ago and was shocked by the scoring. I actually felt that Malignaggi won, if anybody. I don't blame him for the things he said postfight.
     
  5. da1

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    I think Diaz would take the rematch if there's no chance of fighting Hatton. HBO wants the fight but at the same time it's a high risk low reward fight financially and physically. If he fights Hatton though I'm thinking it's a cash out fight beating Hatton at 140 in Manchester is not easy ask Juan Lazcano every time Hatton was hurt the referee would find some way of stopping the action.
     
  6. bladeage

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    A fight against Hatton would be extremely one sided. They both have a similar come forward, pressure style. But the difference is Diaz has the upper hand in endurance, stamina, and work rate. Only thing Hatton would have going for him is his power and body punching. Speed is about the same. Diaz would land more and score more and win the majority of the rounds.

    Juan would still win it, even in Hatton's house. Unless they pay him back for the decision over Paulie. Haha, that would suck.
     
  7. da1

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    There's no way to beat Hatton in Manchester. He has the judges and the ref in his pocket. If you knock him out I'm sure the ref would say it was a foul and give him time to recover.
     
  8. Rockets R' Us

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    The rematch is ON fellas!!!! It's goin down right down the street from my apartment in Chicago, so you know i'll be there!!



    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4626191

    Diaz, Malignaggi to meet again Dec. 12
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    By Dan Rafael
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    Juan Diaz and Paulie Malignaggi, who slugged it out in a controversial unanimous decision win for Diaz in August, will meet again in a junior welterweight rematch after the sides concluded months of negotiations Thursday.

    This time, the fighters will meet on neutral territory with the 12-rounder scheduled for Dec. 12 (HBO) at the UIC Pavilion on the campus of the University of Illinois at Chicago.

    In their first fight, Diaz claimed the decision in his hometown of Houston, where many believed he was the recipient of a little home cookin'. Particularly panned by critics of the decision was the 118-110 scorecard rendered by Texas judge Gale Van Hoy.

    "I enjoyed beating Malignaggi the first time and I'm more than willing to do it again," said Diaz, a former unified lightweight titlist. "This time though, I'm looking for the knockout so I don't have to hear his mouth anymore."

    Diaz (35-2, 17 KOs) moved up in weight for the first fight, which was contracted at a maximum weight of 138½ pounds. Diaz agreed to 139 for the rematch.

    "The public demanded this rematch and I am looking forward to fighting Diaz for the second time," said Malignaggi, a former junior welterweight titlist. "This time I'm going to get the win on my record."

    Diaz promoter Golden Boy and Malignaggi promoter Lou DiBella spent the last two months trying to iron out details of the fight. Besides the typical financial haggling, the main issue was where the fight would take place.

    Malignaggi (26-3, 5 KOs) refused to return to Texas, where he believed he was robbed of a decision. Diaz manager Willie Savannah did not want to come to Malignaggi's hometown of New York or even to an East Coast site such as Atlantic City, N.J., which had significant interest in hosting the bout.

    So the promoters settled on Chicago, where they hope to draw from the large population of Mexican- and Italian-Americans.

    "After how exciting and close their first fight was, it made a rematch a natural choice to close out the year for us," Golden Boy Promotions president Oscar De La Hoya said. "Diaz and Malignaggi are two talented young fighters at the top of their games, but there is no doubt that Juan won the first fight and he will beat Paulie again."

    Said DiBella: "Sometimes rematches are forced and sometimes rematches are inevitable, but this rematch was necessary. I look forward to a great fight on Dec. 12 and for all of the questions to be answered. I thank all involved for making the right thing happen."

    In a supporting bout on HBO's "Boxing After Dark" telecast, junior welterweight Victor Ortiz will face former welterweight title challenger Antonio Diaz (46-5-1, 29 KOs), who is looking for his fifth consecutive win since ending a three-year retirement in 2008.

    Ortiz (24-2-1, 19 KOs), the 2008 ESPN.com prospect of the year, is coming off his first loss, a sixth-round TKO to Marcos Maidana in June after which Ortiz took a lot of heat for quitting at the end of the all-action interim junior welterweight title bout.

    "After Victor's first loss, I think Diaz will test him," Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer said. "I told [matchmaker] Eric Gomez and [manager] Shelly Finkel that I hope you guys know what you're doing. This is a good chance for Antonio Diaz too. I know Diaz whenever he fights, it's a good fight. This is a fight I am personally looking forward to. Frankly, I'd like to have someone a little easier for Victor."
     
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  9. MadMax

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    awesome. hoping Diaz knocks him out.
     
  10. pgsxdjp

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    thanks for the heads up. after the decision of the first fight (coulda gone either way) a rematch will clear the smoke.
     
  11. da1

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    Juan could have at least shaved for the press conference lol, and what's up with random appearance by Mike Ditka and Juan holding a bears Cutler jersey? Wow.

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  12. MadMax

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    Rematch is Saturday night on HBO!!!!

    Go Juan!
     
  13. SwoLy-D

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    "Future Legend"?? CLassy. :rolleyes:

    Check out the contrast in appearance and attire. Thug vs. classy guy.

    GO JUAN! :mad:
     
  14. da1

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    They're both nice guys Paulie just runs his mouth to market himself it's brilliant because for a guy with just five knockouts he's managed to land some huge fights: Cotto, Hatton, Diaz x 2.
     
  15. SwoLy-D

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    Your attire or a phrase on your shirt doesn't say anything about how "nice" you are, but anyone dressing like HE DID at that press conference is a thug in my book.

    At first, I read "they're both nice guys" and agreed, but then the "Paulie just runs his mouth" totally negated the first part. You know what I mean? :eek:
     
  16. da1

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    He's no thug he lives with his Sicilian grandparents lol
     
  17. K mf G

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    thug?
    nothing about that guy says thug
    looking forward to this
    hopefully juan has kept his ass outta the clubs and in the gym
     
  18. MadMax

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    juan needs this one in a big way. i'd love to see an early KO
     
  19. JusBleezy

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    That's some of the most judgmental BS I've read in a while Swoly. I suppose it's tame a for messageboard though. :eek:
     
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    Damn, random indeed, and very unusual...
     

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