Gunman shoots 3 cops for fear that Obama would take away his guns.

fmullegun · Apr 10, 2009

rocketsjudoka said:

That's rather specious. He could've used a bat or a cleaver which would've caused far fewer casualties.
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I thought you said hand to hand combat is much better?

No crazy planner (like that guy was) will settle for a bat.

rocketsjudoka · Apr 10, 2009

Groogrux said:

what if he killed them sofltly with his eyes? more or less efficient?
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What would've been worse is if he killed them softly with his song..

Seriously though lets not make light of this tragedy. What we know as facts was that Cho got his guns legally. There is no evidence to support that he would've used a bomb if he couldn't get guns. What we can state though as very likely is that if the gun control laws of Va had been tighter the dealer might've been made aware that Cho was someone with mental problems who probably shouldn't have been sold guns.

Personally I'm not for the banning of guns and think it is both a constitutional right and a tool for self-defense to own guns. That said a strict reading of the 2nd Ammendment doesn't prevent the regulation or registration of guns. IMO a more armed populace is a two edged sword, pun intended. As much as people are better able to defend themselves there is also more possibility for people to use guns irresponsible or maliciously.

rimrocker · Apr 14, 2009

From DHS...

The DHS/Office of Intelligence and Analysis (I&A) has no specific
information that domestic rightwing* terrorists are currently planning acts of violence,
but rightwing extremists may be gaining new recruits by playing on their fears about
several emergent issues. The economic downturn and the election of the first
African American president present unique drivers for rightwing radicalization and
recruitment.
— (U//LES) Threats from white supremacist and violent antigovernment groups
during 2009 have been largely rhetorical and have not indicated plans to carry
out violent acts. Nevertheless, the consequences of a prolonged economic
downturn—including real estate foreclosures, unemployment, and an inability
to obtain credit—could create a fertile recruiting environment for rightwing
extremists and even result in confrontations between such groups and
government authorities similar to those in the past.
— (U//LES) Rightwing extremists have capitalized on the election of the first
African American president, and are focusing their efforts to recruit new
members, mobilize existing supporters, and broaden their scope and appeal
through propaganda, but they have not yet turned to attack planning.
(U//FOUO) The current economic and political climate has some similarities to the
1990s when rightwing extremism experienced a resurgence fueled largely by an
economic recession, criticism about the outsourcing of jobs, and the perceived threat to
U.S. power and sovereignty by other foreign powers.
— (U//FOUO) During the 1990s, these issues contributed to the growth in the
number of domestic rightwing terrorist and extremist groups and an increase in
violent acts targeting government facilities, law enforcement officers, banks,
and infrastructure sectors.
— (U//FOUO) Growth of these groups subsided in reaction to increased
government scrutiny as a result of the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing and
disrupted plots, improvements in the economy, and the continued U.S. standing
as the preeminent world power.
(U//FOUO) The possible passage of new restrictions on firearms and the return of
military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities
could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists
capable of carrying out violent attacks.

http://www.gordonunleashed.com/HSA - Rightwing Extremism - 09 04 07.pdf
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