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Similarities between Islam and Christianity...

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sane, Aug 30, 2004.

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  1. thadeus

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    Hello.

    I just wanted my 666th post to be in a thread concerning religion.

    That's all.

    Carry on.
     
  2. DaDakota

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    How arrogant of you to propose that you konw what God will or won't do.
     
  3. gotoloveit2

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    Not trying to be philosophical, but who decides who's your Creator. You did, not HIM. May be He is the one and only true Creator. May be He is limitless. May be He is eternal. But who decided to accept all those "facts". You did. He didn't do the reasoning for you. You did. It's your human reasoning, your human heart, or whatever mortal attributes that led you to "believe" He is the one. May be you are wrong all along. Just maybe. After all, you are not the only one amongst billions to claim who has finally found his or her true God, Allah, or "Satan". So don't be "happy" when your "Allah" tell you to kill someone without good explanations. So don't be "happy" to kill all gay people simpily He told you. So don't be "happy" to rape your sister, your mama, or chop your daddy's head off SIMPILY He told you so. I really don't believe the true Creator, if there is one, would appreciate blind faith from his subjects.
     
  4. jo mama

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    how many of the women on that list were CHILDREN when they married older men? im going to guess NONE. i dont get your comparison at all.
     
  5. jo mama

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    what kind of "god" would tell his people to kill in his name? to quote the church lady "could it be SATAN?". in america, when someone says that god told them to kill do you know what we call them? lunatic! nutball! schitzo!

    if your "god" is making appearances here on earth to command you to kill than your "god" sucks and has no place in a civilized world.

    the god i believe in is all knowing and all loving and would never, ever command me to kill one of my fellow human beings.

    as far as the 9/11 celebrations in parts of the arab world, i know what i saw. i dont really expect you to believe me unless you saw the footage too. frankly, i was shocked and it was the first time when i thought to myself "what the hell is wrong with these people?" i know it didnt happen everywhere, but what i saw in cairo looked like one giant party.
     
  6. jo mama

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    im not going to question anyones reasons for worship. religion can be a great thing. its not for everyone, but if it can make your life better than more power to you. however, i have a serious problem w/ religion imposing itself upon people who dont want it. you tell me that your religion commands you to kill homosexuals. i would say that is a serious imposition upon people who dont want anything to do w/ islam. live your life the way you see fit, but mind your buisness and let others live theirs the way they want (even if you dont agree w/ how they live it).
     
  7. Master Baiter

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    Absolutely ridiculous. This is what you have been programmed to believe by the idiots in your country/religion/whatever. The US is NOT a Christian country. We have many many many different religions that live together PEACEFULLY!!! I know that is a concept that is difficult for you to understand.

    I'll take DUMB EXCUSES FOR BEING A TERRORISTS for $500 Alex.

    Name one theocracy that has ever worked in the history of the world. Oh wait, there are none. Thanks for playing try again.

    Yeah, we (Americans) never worry about how we raise our kids and we are all lazy bastards. Every society on earth wants the best for their children. We (Americans) are obviously not entitled to have nice things and good opportunities because we havent earned them. Americans have never done anything to help any other less fortunate country. We hoard everything for ourselves. Your pompous, disgusting, holier than thou, oppressive attitude/religion/countries can kiss my white american ass for all I care. If it were up to me, I would pull out every freaking soldier and let you kill each other since thats what yall are hell bent on doing anyway.

    Our people (men and WOMEN!!!) have gone to countries all over the globe and died trying to help other people. We have given BILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars to help people in need. When something happens in the world, America is who everyone calls for help but as soon as we render our help, they b**** and moan about how we do it. Here is an idea, be thankful you ungrateful bastards. America is the most generous nation on the planet. What has your country done to better the world??? We arent perfect by far but we try damn hard to make this world a better place to be.
     
  8. DaDakota

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    Master Baiter.

    Well said.

    DD
     
  9. AMS

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    the comparison was young women to older men... never did you say anything about children

    "in christianity, young girls arent married off to older men."

    and just as those women had chosen their husband, so did ayesha, its just that mohammad proposed to her father, her father asked her if she was arright with it, and she said yes.
     
  10. AMS

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    Master B,

    when help is not wanted and we still try to get our selves involved people tend not to thank us, they usually get ticked off.
     
  11. outlaw

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    so if some dude asked to marry your 9 year old daughter and she said she was arright with it...
     
  12. Sane

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    I don't disagree with a thing you said in this post... How does it relate to the fact that WHEN (or if) God decides to talk to me, I'll do what he want me to do?

    I decide to do things the way I want them in my life... But if one day, God tells me to be left-handed, then so be it.
     
  13. Sane

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    My bad, that was poorly worded. What I meant to say was God's will always has a purpose. Maybe the purpose is just to test me and see if I'll do it. But there is always A purpose.

    I wouldn't be talking about arrogance if I were you. If I am wrong, I have wished nothing bad at other people. If there is no God, I will just die. If there is another God, I have not disrespected him/them (AstaghfurAllah). You, however, are pretty damn screwed if you are wrong and you are not the least bit worried about it. THAT is arrogance.
     
  14. AMS

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    if the guy was the most respected man in the country, never lied, cheatd, and even nonbelievers lef their money with him, just because he was trustworthy. And if I knew that the man would never do anything wrong, or ever hurt your daughter... yes i would get her married. ONLY AFTER MY DAUGHTERS APPROVAL,

    p.s. and then i would let her leave my house only after she matures into a woman... which is when Abu Bakr(the girls dad) sent her to Mohd.'s house.
     
  15. Sane

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    It's a hypothetical. Do you know what hypotheticals are?

    Also, everyone saw the "celebrations". I also saw everyone in the streets of the U.S. beating the **** out of each other for no reason at all. You can (and should) try, but you will never control 100% of the people. There will always be the people who disagree just to disagree.

    The God you believe is all-loving. That sounds nice. But it really doesn't mean much to me if the God you speak of is not my creator. Lots of times, I find people picking the God that suits them rather than actually trying to find the being/entity that created them and put them on this earth.
     
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    Sorry, but that's sick.
     
  17. Sane

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    jo mama,

    I honestly tried to think of a polite way to put this. I know this comes off the right way, but keep in mind I couldn't think of another way to say it:

    You didn't create the earth. Neither did anyone else who lived on this planet. I could care less about what other people want. If they want to be homosexuals, they are imposing on ME because I don't want to live around them. But that's not how it is, homosexuals want freedom. They want to go public. Well my religion says that neither my children or I should be exposed to homosexuality. So aren't they imposing on me as well?

    Again. You didn't create me. But God did.

    Are you Christian? What if Jesus came down to you and said that you should stay as far away as homosexuals as possible, while homosexuals are fighting for rights and all that all over the world? It's a hypothetical. I'm just using homosexuality as an example.

    So basically, All I care about is pleasing God and going to heaven. All my goals are in line with that. Everything. If someday my goals are outrageous, I hope they execute me so the trip gets shorter and I go to eaven, inshallah, much faster.
     
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    What do you mean by that?
     
  19. Sane

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    Did you leave the last part of that quote out on purpose?

    men used to marry in their teens as well. It was a different time. A teenage couple are way less likely to make it nowadays then they would be back then, which is why it doesn't happen anymore.


    To be completely honest, even I have some trouble identifying with some of these things... But the truth is that women used to marry at a very young age back then. He was not against marrying older women (his first wife was 15 years his senior), so I'm guessing everyone was married at the age of 15... and basically whoever wanted to get married would marry a 15 yr old. During Muslim times, the concept of procreating really fast to gain more worshippers was still going strong, so everyone was getting married left and right.
     
  20. Sane

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    If one day, someone finds my beliefs so detrimental to society, they can execute and God will acknowledge my faithfulness to him and hopefully reward me.

    Better than spending a whole lifetime trying so hard to avoid any and all mistakes.

    Muslims who have sincere faith in their hearts are not afraid of death. (Disclaimer: suicide is forbidden.)
     
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