Zach Lowe: Terrence Jones could be asking for $15M per year

We don't need a trouble maker like Markieff. Let's see what Jones' value is around February. Lawson can really help increase his scoring.

 

And DMO has bigger off the court value than Jones. One of the reasons tinman tried to prove that Hakeem is better than Jordan. Based on twitter, DMO participates in most Rockets activities in the area, visits kids hospital all the time, participates in kids camps, went to the government building with Dwight to represent Rockets, goes to Astros games. He doesn't have any ties with any other place in North America, unlike Jones, who is probably gone from Texas as soon the season is over. DMO even bought a huge aquarium to his condo recently. You can't leave the fish unattended for a long time - guy is not thinking about leaving for Portland or LA. Even during his 2nd season when his agent asked for a trade, DMO commented that he loves the city and really doesn't want to leave, he just wants to play.
But I don't follow Jones on social media, only when he appears on news for criminal reasons, maybe he's showing even more affection to Houston.

 

Jones will get it 2. Thats just the market now.

 

There are so many variables , I don't think most people come close to comprehending. Its enough to make your head spin if you do for the most part understand the cap .... think about it from the perspective of those who don't.


Not only do we have DMo & Jones as RFA's but Dwight has that player option.
(What is Dwight's cap hold should he opt out ?).

Basically it is the Parsons situation all over again. If they can land a big name FA I can see them retaining one or both of DMo & Jones even if they overpay in doing so. If they cant get that big name FA .... they may both walk for nothing.

The cap going up is one thing , the other is that teams must spend 90% of the cap .... Some players are going to get overpaid because of that by teams who miss out on the real big names and have to spend the money one way or another. After teams reach that 90% number things will be much as they are now in that the stars will get paid the big $$$ and everyone else will get between the vet min & the MLE.

The real question in terms of DMo & Jones is do they get paid before or after teams reach that 90% of the cap point. If its before , they get big bucks and $15m wouldnt surprise me for either. If its after ..... they will be affordable.

Going to have to take a look at the list of others who will be FA's along with them .... that'll give us an idea of where in the process their names are called.

I think it's going to be damn costly to keep DMo if he is healthy all season because he is so versatile , able to play both the C & PF spots at a high level. Players like that come at a premium price. Jones on the other hand isnt able to play C reliably , I dont think he's as costly.

None of that matters if they can sign that top tier (Durant?) FA as they can match and exceed the cap and will have the MLE and BAE to play with after doing so.
This team could add a lot of talent without giving up anyone next offseason , if they can lure that big name early in the process.

 

Well, let's trade TJ before dealine...

 

Who do you get in return , what else do you have to send out to make the deal , is it an upgrade ?!

It's not likely you are going to get a player equal or better than Jones without adding something to the deal be it picks or a player - then realize Morey moved next years #1 in the Lawson deal.

If you do trade him , as the roster stands currently you almost have to bring in his direct replacement. Cant see going with just DMo & a rookie if you are fighting for a championship.

It's not as easy as "trade Jones."

 

TJones is just as committed to the Rockets and Houston as DMo or any other player on the roster. You're wrong about every point you made about him. Both are valuable pieces to the Rockets future. Why play them against each other!

 

I don't care to read through the 11 pages, but the title is a bit misleading. I thought there'd be some actual substance behind this.

I think Lowe is wrong. Just because a handful of players have been overpaid doesn't mean Jones will be. He doesn't have any playoff performances to attract stupid offers.

 

He's just a backup PF....if Harrell and Dekker look like they can handle the Jones role of of completely disappearing in the playoffs then you absolutely move Jones. Why wouldn't you?

 

If Terrence would have been a free agent this off season, what team would have paid him a starting salary of $11.67 million?

 

Also, I think eventually the cap will swing lower again in the early 2020s. Front offices are going to start overpaying and overvaluing guys, until mediocre guys are getting paid as much as the stars. Unless the tv money is exponentially rising every year, we'll see a lockout in the 2020s ala the last one and the players will have to take less money.

 

Breaking news: Rokman will be asking for $300,000 per year. Per sources

 

I always tell people to think of it in the market, not real life. 15m is like 10m. Aminu got 7.5m and Carrol got 15m. When the cap explodes up again, the usual 8-10 M guys are 12-15m. If Lawson plays like Lawson, he's gonna be 18m per next contract. I mean shumpert got 12m of all people.

 

Their both easily worth more of 15, I would have thought that would of been what we would offer before they both countered with the kanter contract

 

That 3rd and 4th quarter performance in the elimination game 6 against the Clippers alone can guarantee him a good contract up to 9-10 million if not more.

As said it is just how the market works now.

 

There are a large group of fans strongly believed that the Rockets will not resign Bev for more than 5 mils per this summer.

And then there are a large group of beat writers saying the contract Morey gave to Bev is with very good value.

 

True about so many variables, but this is the modern NBA which is now a league trending towards shorter contracts with more flexibility on both sides (players and teams).

If you are a team that is going to be trading everyone on your roster that you are scarred you are going to lose in free agency then you are going to be a team with nobody on your roster. Everyone is about to be, or is a free agent at some point. Hell, pretty soon in a couple years we can already start to worry about Harden's free agency.

If this was still 2012 Morey then yes, I'd say that the move would be to possibly trade one of D-Mo or Jones, but that's not the case anymore. Being a contending team adds a whole other variable to the situation in favor of not moving players even when there is legit reason to believe they will get overpaid in free agency the follow year.

Like you mentioned, the biggest variable that could happen that could make this all moot would be pursuing Kevin Durant. Like the Parsons situation, IF the Rockets were to get LUCKY enough to score that big in free agency, they will be so far over the cap anyways that it really doesn't matter what you pay your role players as restricted free agents afterwards. What Jones or D-Mo would be making after the fact would be pointless for Fans to worry about. That's just up to Les Alexanders pocket book which is something we should care less about.

 

Actually, it is as easy as trade Jones. Rockets can take draft picks. Rockets have DMo, Hayes, Capela, Ariza, and two rookies fighting for PT. The problem with rookies is usually defense. Jones plays rookie level defense.

 

Did the Pistons make the playoff last year and how well did Reggie Jackson perform?