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Obama to deny FEMA funds to states that deny man-made climate change

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tallanvor, Mar 23, 2015.

  1. Faust

    Faust Member

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    oh yea i remember this dude.

    http://www.theguardian.com/environm...ten-global-warming-skeptic-arguments-debunked

    Contrarian climate scientist Roy Spencer put forth the top 10 'skeptic' arguments - all are easily answered


    Roy Spencer is one of the less than 3% of climate scientists whose research suggests that humans are playing a relatively minimal role in global warming. As one of those rare contrarian climate experts, he's often asked to testify before US Congress and interviewed by media outlets that want to present a 'skeptical' or false balance climate narrative. He's also a rather controversial figure, having made remarks about "global warming Nazis" and said,

    "I view my job a little like a legislator, supported by the taxpayer, to protect the interests of the taxpayer and to minimize the role of government."

    In any case, as one of those rare contrarian climate scientists, Spencer is in a good position to present the best arguments against the global warming consensus. Conveniently, he recently did just that on his blog, listing what he considers the "Top Ten Good Skeptical Arguments," throwing in an 11th for good measure. He also conveniently posed each of these arguments as questions; it turns out they're all easy to answer.

    1) No Recent Warming. If global warming science is so "settled", why did global warming stop 15 years ago, contrary to all "consensus" predictions?

    Quite simply, it hasn't. Even global surface temperatures (which is how Spencer is likely measuring 'global warming', although they only account for about 2% of the Earth's warming), have warmed about 0.2°C over the past 15 years, according to the best available measurements. More importantly, the planet has continued to accumulate heat at a rate equivalent to 4 Hiroshima atomic bomb detonations per second over the past 15 years.


    his other 9 arguments are also shot down.
     
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  2. tallanvor

    tallanvor Contributing Member

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    what is your argument? You just posted a guardian article that disagrees with the author.....

    The article you are posting also boasts the 97% of scientists agree claim that is proven false. You didn't even address the chart at all.
     
  3. mc mark

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    It's a waste of time with this kind of people Faust. Best to just laugh at them and move on.
     
  4. Space Ghost

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    I am not sure of the gist of the article, but yes, I agree. I feel like the article is the work of a troll. It seems like a lot of facts are taken out of context.

    Is FEMA not giving funds to states who are not going to prepare for disasters? That is a bit of common sense.

    Is FEMA requiring States to write a charter that fully states they recognize global warming (or is it climate change) before they grant money? That is wrong.
     
  5. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    He has no idea what he just posted nor how the numbers were determined. It's like the creationists and secret moon landing people. They post a bunch of stuff easily refuted by actual scientists that the layman wouldn't understand.
     
  6. pbnfamilia

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    http://billmoyers.com/2014/05/16/eight-pseudo-scientific-climate-claims-debunked-by-real-scientists/ Im just gonna leave this here hopefully you read it. Dr. Roy Spencer of course agrees with the republicans stance he is on their payroll after all . Why do you think that Richard Lindzen and him are always the only two scientist that are exclusively relied upon from the republicans to speak about it.

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/cjuGCJJUGsg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> here is a little video to help you understand .
     
  7. Commodore

    Commodore Contributing Member

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    If people want a governor who does those things, they will elect one.

    Obama rules like a tyrant. Using whatever power he has at his disposal to compel people to his will. He doesn't care if his party is wiped out at every level, he will be in full YOLO mode for two more years.

    Our system never intended to allow one man to do so much on his own.
     
  8. tallanvor

    tallanvor Contributing Member

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    They aren't. I even posted one earlier in this thread for you. Does your video present the opposing point of view in a manner they would approve of? if so then ill watch it.
     
  9. Major

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    If people want a President that wants these things done, they will elect one. And they did. Twice.
     
  10. Commodore

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    Oliver sure sounds smart with his clapping seal audience and no one allowed to refute him.

    Even more dishonest, he has his own stooge stand in to slay straw men with.

    Notice all his words are scripted, every argument he responds to is prerecorded. He's rigged the game to protect himself.
     
  11. pbnfamilia

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    You can have an opposing view point, but it wont change that its wrong . It will just mean" look at these people inaccurately talk about climate change. The fact are the facts its not based on an opinion.
     
  12. bigtexxx

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    This. Obama simply won't put in the hard work to get things done across the aisle. He's lazy. He prefers being a tyrant.
     
  13. Faust

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    if liberals control both houses of congress and most state congresses and they want to repeal the 1st amendment or get rid of the military, i say feck working across the aisle. id be a tyrant. standing up for the right thing is more important than looking your a lazy dude. standing up for something that threatens humanity's existense and future on this planet means you can waste your presidency and look like the weakest potus of all time but it's still the right thing to do and god will know it.
     
  14. Mr. Clutch

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    Weather = climate now?
     
  15. rudan

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    Maybe he can deny other entitlements to red states and all the bums can move to blue states......
     
  16. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    For some, that equation is true forever :grin:
     
  17. RedRedemption

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Minimum_Drinking_Age_Act

    There is already a precedent for this.
    Ronald Reagan had no reservations about withholding funds to impact public policy.
    Or is Reagan a tyrant now too?

    You still have the freedom to deny climate change. You just won't get funding.
     
  18. bigtexxx

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    strong command of the English language...

    ...and your post is also absurd.

    comparing the first amendment to climate change, lol.

    KOCH FREEMASONS 1PERCENTERS BIG OIL CORPORATE PROFITS DICK CHENEY!!!eleven
     
  19. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    Everyone know the climate is changing. Some don't believe it's man caused. But surely no one is denying that the climate is not changing.

    FEMA disaster-preparedness funds is for preparation of disasters, I would assume. If you aren't preparing for climate change, then it's a burden on the public, the taxpayers, to bail you out when you face a disaster that you could have been better prepare to handle. I see justification of withholding specific type of funds so you do get your plans in place to avoid placing an unnecessary increase risk on the public to bail you out, that surely would happen when it comes to it.
     
  20. Anticope

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    Are you schizophrenic? 2 months ago you were screaming that climate change was some leftist conspiracy:

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=9479091&postcount=13

    :confused:
     

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