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Jalen Rose: "the term superstar for Dwight Howard, those days are past"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Commodore, Feb 9, 2015.

  1. t_mac1

    t_mac1 Contributing Member

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    You're not a superstar for 6 great games. A superstar is someone who dominates during the regular season, and maintain or elevate his game in the playoffs.

    Dwight hasn't been a superstar for a long time now (4 years at least). He's been a star, but not a superstar.
     
  2. Houstunna

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    Black Man.... IQ...... Watermelon. ....

    RACIST
     
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    Yes, Rose and all the other ignorant guys that base someone status in the league on 51 regular season games are right.

    James Harden has become a superstar just by playing 51 games at the level he is playing right now, after he was a no show last year in the most important games of the season (after having, like this year, a great regular season).

    Dwight Howard is not a superstar no more just because he hasn't played like one in 51 games with injury after injury after he was (alongside LA) true superstars last year in the most important games of the season.

    My point: If you are prepared to be a basic/casual NBA fan that ignores the body of work these guys have put in before this season, go ahead, but don´t be mad when reality hits you right in the face and you deny it because you saw something different happening in a meaningless small sample size of games.
     
  4. t_mac1

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    James is nearing superstardom, which will be solidified with a good playoff performance.

    Please do not compare Dwight to Harden. Dwight isn't in the same planet as Harden.
     
  5. treeman

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    Yeah, 16/11/1.4 while playing injured the whole season. Guy's total trash. :rolleyes:

    Is he a top 5 player at this point, even healthy? Of course not, the game has changed a bit the past few years and you can't fight aging. He is at the age where his output will start to decline, but that is manageable with health and being given the right role. With Harden doing what he's doing he doesn't need to be a "superstar" (whatever the hell that's supposed to mean), and he still does things we want him to do.

    Get him healthy and then see what we've got to work with. Don't rush him back. This question is premature, not to mention irrelevant and largely unmeasurable.
     
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    So you discount Dwights great playoffs by saying he didnt do it in the regular season? What kind of backward thinking is that. Last time i checked the playoffs last year is not 4 years ago.
     
  7. EightDoobies

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    I'm just going to wait till Dwight comes back.
     
  8. malakas

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    Well I agree . Dwight isn't a superstar anymore but he's still a bright star. But the definition superstar is abritrary. I consider very few of the stars of these league to have reached superstardom. Harden is one.
     
  9. photojoe

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    Couldn't agree more!

    Is he a superstar anymore? Problably not.

    Is our team much, much better with his defense and rebounding? Absolutely.



    I said it before. If James Harden is able to play at the same level during the playoffs, and Dwight Howard is able to give us even 80-90% of what he gave us during last year's playoffs, we will make a deep playoff run. This year.
     
  10. t_mac1

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    Read my post again. I said to be widely considered a superstar in this league, you have to dominate the regular season AND playoffs. The last time Dwight did that was 4-5 years ago.

    Dwight has played at an all-star level though when healthy.
     
  11. Buzzlite

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    Dwight was averaging around 20 pts 12 Reb and 2.3 blocks to start off the season until injuries overtook his production...Those numbers are nothing to scoff at...If we can get THAT guy back in 6 weeks there will be know need for "Orlando Dwight"...People forget just how good Dwight was early on in the season
     
  12. CometsWin

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    I think there are three components to a superstar. One, sustained all-star regular season performance over several or many years. Two, deep playoff success. Three, media saturation. So from your list..

    LeBron
    KD

    Also add...

    Kobe

    Just putting up numbers doesn't make you a superstar. You have to win and you have to be in the media in such a way that non-basketball fans in cities without teams know you.
     
  13. LosPollosHermanos

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    lolwut.

    You're really reaching there bud. The IQ of a grapefruit, that work better?
     
  14. Verbal Christ

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    Yes. Yesss. Stoke the fire. We need a pissed off Howard come playoff time.
     
  15. ForTheWinYes

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    Glad to know "being good at basketball" isn't a requirement to being a superstar.
     
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    yup yup msm pretends dwight hasnt been injured all season long while averaging 16/11 at 57% from the field and 1.4bpg. daam dwight you suck, thats all you can do at 60% health? cant even make a three smh
     
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    When Jalen said that Harden was his choice for MVP, we praised the guy for his opinions. Now that he is saying something bad about Dwight we are calling him garbage. His opinions are just opinions. But if we look at what Dwight has produced lately, then yes he is not at " superstar" level. Hopefully if he can get healthy enough he just might change his opinion. Dwight could possibly get back up there but it all depends on how well he can adapt to his changing body. This also comes with this organizations ability to get him that kind of help. I hope Caroll Dawson is still somewhere sitting there with his phone next to him because he could show the man a few things
     
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    and this guy wanted to lead the lakers....
     
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    Wrong, the Rockets have 1 borderline superstar and 1 borderline all star
     

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