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Kostas Papanikolaou leaves game with knee strain 12/5/2014 (Updated: Video, Early Diagnosis)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by RV6, Dec 5, 2014.

  1. bongman

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    Funny. That is what some folks say when they have nothing else to say. Instead of providing useful info to back up claims, they say you don't know anything.
     
  2. sugrlndkid

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    If you tear your ACL, your knee will not be stable...The reason there is a brace/cast that is instantly put at that point is to prevent further injury to the other ligament and meniscus. As we said, we will have to wait on commenting on the injury; J.R. or someone else (really J.R.) will most likely give us an update once the team gets further imaging on the knee. For now...relax and take it for what its worth...the injury doesnt appear to be a season ending one...praying no tears, and just a mild sprain.
     
  3. Salvy

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    You don't know anything...
     
  4. HTown_DieHard

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    please don't sent him to clowney's knee doctor
     
  5. LHSPanther62

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    You can walk normally with a torn ACL after the swelling goes down. Side to side movement and twisting is a different story.
     
  6. PeppermintCandy

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    Papa has been a great glue guy, it's going to be tough going without his passing and defense off the bench.
     
  7. chandlerbang21

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    Dwight had knee strain also look how long he has been out
     
  8. J.R.

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    :grin:

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  9. JazzLakerHater

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    It's gotten to the point of being comical how injured this team is. The biggest problem with the Pap injury isn't so much that we're going to miss him ( even though he has been solid), it's that it means we're going to see a lot more Garcia. :(
     
  10. JR

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    As others have said this is not necessarily true. Unless you go back on the court and play more basketball after tearing your ACL, you're not going to further injure it by walking around and that's why you actually see a lot of people with ACL injuries not in an immediate cast. In fact, unless you're going to play basketball or ski or do other athletic activities, surgery is not even required for an ACL tear. So you guys who are saying that you're instantly in a cast or brace if you tear your ACL are just wrong.

    http://www.inlandortho.net/anterior-cruciate-ligament-injuries.html

    Now that's not saying Papa has an ACL injury - of course I hope that's not the case, and as others have mentioned, it's pretty easy for a doc to figure out if someone tore his ACL with a physical exam.
     
  11. EightDoobies

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    Seems he will be out for at least two weeks. Dwight... Bev? Wanna come back now?
     
  12. hooroo

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    Can Morey sign Brad Newley just so there's another option at backup SF besides Garcia :eek: :(
     
  13. Ramathorn006

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    I'm in medical school. I don't need to back up my claims. Look at the anatomy of the knee. I'm not doubting you cannot walk on it. I am saying he is a professional athlete, if there was serious damage he would be in a knee brace not ice with an ace bandage around it.
     
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    damn. could have been nasty if he fell a bit closer, but that lateral deviation still looked painful to watch. Hope his mcl is ok.
     
  17. HRox832

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    We should call up Earl Clark. Too many injuries man...
     
  18. RedRedemption

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    I am at a loss for words.
    We just keep losing guys every other game.
     
  19. sugrlndkid

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    Two things to point out JR. Had a friend during the course of my medical school who suffered an ACL tear playing pick up basketball. Didnt need surgery bc he essentially wasnt going to require it. Eventually got one done once he was able to afford the surgery and started getting annoyed that his knee felt like it was giving out. For an NBA basketball athlete, protecting the rest of the joint is key if initial diagnostic physical exams show an injury. They just dont want the risk of any other aspect of the joint getting hurt. Hence, why a brace is often put for such patients.

    In the link you provided, there is further explanation for initial vs definitive mgmt. Not trying to be a smart ass..just pointing out what i know...Of course I am not an ortho-physician, and will defer to them in regards to this. Shouldve avoided saying instantly and used the word brace...and not cast.

    The initial management of a patient with an anterior cruciate ligament injury is high individualized, but some general principles exist. Assuming no fractures are present, the patient is often allowed to bear weight on the extremity when pain and swelling and motion allow. Eighty percent of ACL injuries have significant bone bruising that may necessitate minimal weight bearing. You may be advised to wear a brace and/or use crutches depending on the severity of the injury. Application of ice to the knee, usually for 20 minutes 4-5 times per day, may aid in minimizing swelling for the first 3 days after the injury. Treatments will be started to help restore knee motion, maintain muscle strength and reduce swelling. If surgery is to be performed, it will be done after the acute inflammation (swelling) and restriction of motion that accompanies the injury have subsided, which generally takes about 2-3 weeks.

    Your physician mayor may not choose to obtain an MRI (magnetic resonance imaging) scan of your knee. An MRI scan is not always necessary if the physician's clinical evaluation is evident. This is tailored to each patient.

    Definitive Management
    Approximately one-third of patients who injury the anterior cruciate ligament will experience relatively few problems and lead a fairly normal lifestyle. Another oneĀ¬ third will have problems with the knee with various athletic activities. These people could live with their knee satisfactorily if they are willing to give up those activities that cause problems. The remaining one-third of patients will have problems with their knee even with simple activities of daily living, such as stepping off a curb or changing directions while walking or jogging.

    The decision to undergo reconstructive surgery for a tear of the anterior cruciate ligament is highly individualized. Patients who should consider undergoing anterior cruciate ligament reconstruction are those who plan to continue an active lifestyle, which places demands on the injured knee. Activities that require frequent changes in direction or speed (tennis, skiing, basketball, football, soccer, softball) will generally result in "giving way" episodes in a person with an anterior cruciate ligament deficient knee. These episodes may cause further injury to the menisci and articular cartilage of the knee and are thought to eventually result in degenerative arthritis. Patients who lead a more sedentary lifestyle or those who participate in "straight ahead" sports like jogging, swimming and cycling, may have little, if any, difficulty with their knee.
     
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    this is the point of impact . Hopefully the MRI doesn't show anything too bad.

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