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Disgusted By JLin Trade

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by cincymmb, Jul 18, 2014.

  1. cincymmb

    cincymmb Member

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    How about a truce Clutch.....100,000 views = lifting of the lifetime ban??? We're all just biding time until the next Rockets move anyways.
     
  2. KlutchQT

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    If you hadn't started like 15 threads in a month, you'd probably have a better shot lol.
     
  3. Panda23

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    So on the vlorium spectrum of player evaluation you are either trash or not trash? Very reasonable
     
  4. Neped

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    Who knows maybe Lin will learn some good qualities from Nash a future HOF. Dragic sure improved after he was his teammate.:) Time will only tell.
     
  5. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    If you want to argue with the stats readily available to everyone, like a clown, be my guest. As for this stupid MOF thing, I have called for McHale's firing a couple times so it appears yet again you don't know what you're talking about.
     
  6. Neped

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    By the way Dragic played professional ball at age 17 in 2003. JLin only 4 years and two years a starter. Most people don't know this. Can't compare these two to each other.:eek:
     
  7. rayfantastic

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    One thing's the same. Both are a different player when not playing for McHale. I'll throw in Lowry as well.
     
  8. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    dragic improved and became a starter in houston within year

    lin started and lost his starting job in his 2 year stay
     
  9. calcium

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    Oooh... I dont know about that.

    I get the very strong impression the hate is for the player,
    but that could be just me.

    If you dont believe me, go and try and say something non-negative
    or demeaning the player, and then just sit back and _wait_ :)

    Something you know is true.

    Like, Lin didnt lose us Game 4 of the playoffs.
    He just didnt help us win it in regular time (with the non-calling of the timeout).

    But that wasnt a show ender. It just made us have to play OT.

    And he did not play in OT, hence, no chance for any possible redemption.
    So technically speaking, the guys who played in OT has to take
    some responsibility....

    [And now I just sit back, relax, and wait and test our hypotheses :)]
     
  10. Panda23

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    so are you talking about Lin or Dragic of 2011?

    On February 24, 2011, at the NBA Trade Deadline, Dragić was traded to the Houston Rockets along with the lottery protected first round pick Phoenix received in an earlier trade with the Orlando Magic in exchange for Aaron Brooks.


    **Well if you say that Lin was trash because we had to attach assets for a team to take him then you agree that Dragic when he was traded to us was trash right?

    Dragic didn't have nearly the crippling balloon payment that Lin has attached to his contract, and the 1st rounder attached to Lin ALSO a lottery protected first rounder, god help us if we miss the playoffs.

    So basically, after we make the playoffs next season, the only difference between the Dragic trade and the Lin trade is a second rounder DESPITE the balloon 15m payment.

    So based on the way you evaluate stuff (trash/not trash based on attachment of picks) you agree that Dragic was trash right?
     
  11. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    NO

    Apples to oranges

    Houston had to give up Aaron brooks. What did lakers give up?

    At that time, has dragic been a starter yet for a year and demoted the following year?

    Simply compare asik to Lin

    Asik is proven elite at rebounding and defense that's why he was a valuable asset to Houston and coveted by teams

    Lin is proven mediocre and steaky at everything that's why he was a negative asset to Houston and no team coveted
     
  12. J-Wolf

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    You are probably right.

    But sometimes, these things are what they are at that particular point in time.

    Would trading Lin have 'cost' as much now as then?

    Or in 2 months time, or in December?

    If not, then maybe we should have waited cos it makes more
    sense from a business point of view.

    Yeah, yeah, I know, we rushed cos of Bosh.

    Was just speaking with hindsight. It was just bad business
    to have done the trade when we did. V bad timing.
     
  14. vlaurelio

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    The thing bosh told morey he was going to rockets if Miami is not going to give him full max

    Lebrons went to Cleveland 99% chance Miami was not gonna offer full max to bosh so there was 99% chance we were going to get bosh

    Money needed to dump Lin and lakers is the only taker who's not going to dump us a contract in return. But it will cost our late first round pick.

    Then Miami did the unthinkable offering 30 yr old regressed bosh full max as the best player in their roster
     
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    You can say the same for Dragic's Suns last season, and look how he has developed. Lin will follow suit this season, more or less.
     
  17. J-Wolf

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    Last time I check, this is a post about Lin's trade, no?

    Yes the quote is from 2012, but it would be hilarious to hear the tone again this coming season... ;)
     
  18. TheJet

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    How many times are people going to misinterpret the whole Harden ISO thing? This has been proven incorrect time and time again, yet folks keep citing it like it's a fact.

    And you if you think Harden "ball hogging" was an issue (which has also been debunked) wait until you catch Kobe's act.
     
  19. CometsWin

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    His fans will certainly be out of excuses for him if he doesn't play well. Lin putting up stats on a lottery team is about who he is as a player and there's nothing wrong with that but the game doesn't match the hype by any means.
     
  20. J-Wolf

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    Young players need that kind of environment to develop. Take a look at the stats of Durant's first two years and you'll see. It's not about "knew"; it is about "believe". Sadly for Rockets, McFail and Morey do not believe in Lin from the get go. The 25 mil Morey gave Lin is actually something that is impeding Lin's development.
     

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